I am looking to buy a used Norica Omnia. I got one all picked out.
I wasn't too impressed with the accuracy of the stock rifle reported so far.
I was wondering if anyone know or tried to fit a R9 action into an Omnia?
Will it fit or will it be a waste of my time?
I very seriously doubt that it would be remotely close. The big question is why?
The big answer is the Norica barrel, action and trigger group are not up to par compared to some of the Beeman products. Because if you look at some of the accuracy reviews of the Omnia, they are not exactly stellar.
One of the original intent/design of the stock was to allow customers to put their actions into this stock (2019, Cometa) Middle of the webpage.
https://hardairmagazine.com/news/lets-look-at-some-iwa-international-exhibitors/
Was wondering if this was still doable or if the product put out by Norica had deviated from the original design.
Imagine if you could put a TX200 action into this stock?
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Jose the designer already responded to my PM regarding this question. He said it wold be "very expensive"
I was just wondering if there were any creative and mechanical wizards out there that have already tackled and solved the problem.
I'd just get a D54 or 56th or maybe an FWB 300.
Thank you for your reply Tim.
The difference between the RWS 54/56 and the Omnia is that the Sled system on the 54/56 takes your scope for a very harsh double recoil ride. Less so on the FWB 300. Whereas the Omnia, your scope stays isolated on the stock and is subjected to less recoil. Additionally, the FWB300 just does not generate enough power to compete past 40 yards at WFTF springer.
My intent was to shoot Max of 12 FPE (WFTF springer with a Omnia/R9 set up or even a TX200 if we can shove the action in there).
BTW Tim, I do own a RWS 54 and I can confirm its scope eating abilities are legendary (sometimes even with anti-recoil mounts). Makes you wonder why someone would design something like the 54...maybe a scope manufacturer???
Thank you for your reply Tim.
The difference between the RWS 54/56 and the Omnia is that the Sled system on the 54/56 takes your scope for a very harsh double recoil ride. Less so on the FWB 300. Whereas the Omnia, your scope stays isolated on the stock and is subjected to less recoil. Additionally, the FWB300 just does not generate enough power to compete past 40 yards at WFTF springer.
My intent was to shoot Max of 12 FPE (WFTF springer with a Omnia/R9 set up or even a TX200 if we can shove the action in there).
BTW Tim, I do own a RWS 54 and I can confirm its scope eating abilities are legendary (sometimes even with anti-recoil mounts). Makes you wonder why someone would design something like the 54...maybe a scope manufacturer???
You made me spit my coffee! ROFLMAO!
The sled system was designed by a DIANA engineer BEFORE scopes were even a "thing" in airguns.
FWB used the system for their match airguns (DIANA was not interested in sled Match guns after the GISS system was completely enabled), but it was a somewhat short-lived thing because the SSP's came onto the scene. MOST of the FWB's 300 we see now a days were made as "Club" airguns, and not as "Match" (as in Olympic usage), airguns.
If you are interested in a recoil-less WFTF direct gun, then you best bet is a short stroked D54.
With an Accurized ZR mount it can and will deliver more USABLE accuracy and precision than most other platforms.
Contrary to popular belief, the aim of the ZR mount is not to isolate the scope from recoil (single or double), the objective is to isolate the scope from vibrations. Vibrations lead to things loosening up and once they have a distance to travel under impulse, things start to break, roll or simply get out of place for every shot.
The Omnia is a break-barrel, same as the 95. I have not seen any B-B's in FT competitions after 2013. If you plan to shoot "for fun", then get an HW 98, or a used Walther LGV, those are the only two B-B's that I would trust to do reasonably well at FT.
HTH, keep well and shoot straight!
HM
@hector_j_medina_g If they put the Omnia in a wood stock I might bite but as is I can't get past the ugly
You don't need to tell me that, my friend.
LOL!
The Norica Omnia is the second time around that this recoil-isolating mechanism has been put forward. The first time, COMETA exhibited the technology in one of the IWA's, but COMETA was wise enough to see that the appeal of the technology would be on the high end of the market, the "upper level performers", and there was a question about the extreme similarity of this version of "Zero Recoil" and the Italian "EffeZetta".
Anyway, that's past history.
To my knowledge, there have been a few TX-200's put into these types of "chassis stocks", but in reality none of them have achieved the results that were expected in matches outside Spain (where the technology comes from).
Modern ways to tune spring guns have done away with much of the vibrations and recoil, but if what you want is a gun that can be held as close as possible in the same way as you would a HP / Service rifle, then the 54 is still your best bet, and the ZR Mount, once Accurized is truly capable of Match grade accuracy and repeatability.
To date, I have put out over well over 200 Accurized ZR Mounts and no scope has died in them. Even vintage scopes.
I still need to find a way to counteract the thermal effects on most scopes using the ZR Mount, but that may be a quite different/difficult and/or probably impossible task without a complete re-design of the mount. We'll see new ideas are floating around in my head, LOL!
Keep well and shoot straight!
HM
