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Prairie_Farmer
(@prairie_farmer)
Illinois
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With a couple of days to fiddle, ordered this in recently to "tink" on.  In .177, this thing out of the box was indeed stiff to cock and shooting 7.3g JSB at 990 fps.  Little to fast for me and had a little sense of harshness.  I ended up using a ARH 12 fpe kit I had set back in the pile of springs.  I really wanted this to get down close to 10 fpe, and installed the kit with one spacer.  It could have taken two .790" spacers, but with one it was shooting the 7.3g JSB over 850 fps.  So I took it back down, pulled the spacer and started over.  I have it shooting right at 10 fpe now.  It does have a little thump to it, not something I have seen in my HW 12 fpe rifles.  But I can already tell the barrel is accurate with the little shooting I did out the shop window today in the wind.  I will say it cocks easily now, and points real easy with the stubby barrel.  It has been awhile since I had my full length TX opened and forgot how easy these are to work on.

I will say, the trigger took a little time to get where I wanted it.  First those pins in these are tough critters, just like my last one to get out, one especially.  The factory set up had almost no second stage wall.  It took me a good hour setting the first stage up, then getting the second stage wall just right on the sear break.  To get it, I backed out the second screw, and got the first stage turned in just about right, then walked in the second stage screw and found the wall I was looking for.  I do find the Rekord triggers easier to get set up.  Snapped a few photos along the way,

https://imgur.com/khHpWEC

Action fresh out of the stock,

https://imgur.com/6WkZuP2

The walnut stock inlay on this has no burrs or rough cutting to say, seems really nice,

https://imgur.com/Uyxl4Nb

Pre-load with factory spring,

https://imgur.com/Jljurg8

https://imgur.com/FFALcb5

Well lubed if you will,

https://imgur.com/PdaF18k

https://imgur.com/PDF00o8

Quick clean up of the piston and comp tube, snapped on a ARH seal, and new breech seals,

https://imgur.com/q6stYW4

Different seals I use in these,

https://imgur.com/0CgN7Li

Stock spring set up against the ARH kit,

https://imgur.com/oCgPVjA

https://imgur.com/hqfJYWB

Installed the new Nikon EFR 3x9x40 scope just out, with UK sportsmatch rings,

https://imgur.com/qwDdbU6

https://imgur.com/sgHT3E9

https://imgur.com/LO3Oldd

https://imgur.com/9Xy6bQk

https://imgur.com/5MKpqUb

Hope you enjoy the pics,

https://imgur.com/v1tZmcM

Jason Garvin

 


   
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Jim_in_SWMO
(@jim_in_swmo)
Missouri
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That looks nice, Jason. That bluing and the polishing on the metal is amazing. Nice piece of walnut, too. I like the coloring it has. Too bad it's for a wrong-handed shooter though ?. Is it just the photos or is the stock a little dry? Looks like it could drink in a bit of oil.

That Nikon looks right at home on there, too. When I ordered my R9 I got some Sportsmatch 2-piece rings for it. This is my first set of the Sportsmatch rings and if I had known what they were like I might never have bothered with the BKLs. Might be switching a couple of other sets out for more of the Sportsmatch in the future.

Speaking of the R9, it's too bad that didn't work out for you. I'm sure you would have liked it. But I think you came out ahead with this AA. Enjoy!


   
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Prairie_Farmer
(@prairie_farmer)
Illinois
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Yep the stock looks flat, I considered working it over, but this may end up being a working rifle anyway.  I did notice immediately that this feels lighter than than the beech stock.

As for the rings, I always order mine from here,  great savings.

https://www.tawnadoairguns.com/sportsmatch_scope_mounts_one_piece_one_inch.php

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Jason G


   
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Mike_Ellingsworth
(@mike_ellingsworth)
Montana
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 247
 

Hi Jason. 

I had a walnut  pro sport  and found the wood was  to light  for that model making  the rifle way to light  at the butt end I wound up letting  it go, was going to add  lead conicals to  the butt  but just could not bring myself to do it. later I  bought a beach  pro sport.

Yours  is  very nice, I  Like the walnut grain on  yours ,  just  needs  some of  your special care.  ? 

The  quality the AA  have are outstanding . what happened with  your R 9 I must  of  missed  that post.

Enjoy the new  kid on  the block shes very nice.


   
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Limbshaker
(@limbshaker)
Alabama
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Looks good Jason! Crazy clean and detailed as always from you!

The MK 3 TX200s will always have a little "thump" to em when tuned down from what I have played with. The stroke is way too long, and the piston is heavy. Gets lazy and you can feel the bounce. If the TX was 3 pounds lighter, it would be so hold sensitive you couldn't shoot it. It's weight keeps it under control through the slow lock time. 

Here's why the HWs always seem sweeter at 12 fpe and under:

HW77/97 stroke length is 81mm

TX200 MK3 stroke is 98mms!

The early TX200 MK1 and MK2 had an 84mm stroke, very close to the HW77. Not on accident either, LOL. The TX was copied off the HW77 MK2 with the 25mm piston, and the TX has kept that piston diameter ever since. Little pistons are easier to push and use less spring, hence the low preload on most TXs.  

Whip up or buy a short stroke o-ring head for the piston and it will be short and sweet like a  HW77K/HW97. The UK guys have a lot of info on the short stroke stuff.

I had a TX200 HC I loved dearly. I had an oring piston seal in it, and a custom soft spring with a lot of preload to try and tame the bounce, along with an enlarged transfer port. It was a laser, but still not as crisp as a HW with a good JM kit and bigger port. In the end the Germans won out and I put it back to stock and sold it. Still miss that CD trigger sometimes though, they are excellent. And the TXs are a dream to work on. Dang, I need another one now! 

 

 

 

  


   
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Prairie_Farmer
(@prairie_farmer)
Illinois
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Chase,

That does make sense, I have read similar things in the past.  I shot about 300 pellets today out the barn window, and this rifle is accurate.  Shooting a tad over 10 fpe and about right were I want it.  Very repeatable the entire time with about a 30 deg rise in temp.  I used the ARH cold weather tar sparingly again as I am having good luck with it.

Now I have been shooting the HW30 for months, and it is near recoiless with the Vortek SHO, and stupid accurate.  When I finished the TX, I thought it had some thump yet even at 10 fpe, then my brother brought over his Watts tune FWB 124.  Which is easy cocking and mild, but this TX is even milder yet on recoil as I just hadn't had something to compare it this week.  Shooting the HW30 will spoil you.  Good thing is the cocking with the HC short throw lever is pretty easy.  With the Factory spring, it was hard and I couldn't imagine shooting it very long.  I am leaving the stock alone, it reminds me of a new M1 garand or M14sa walnut stock and will serve well in the bush.

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Jason G


   
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bustachip
(@bustachip)
North Carolina
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Hard to beat the AA bluing and machine work, always wanted a prosport. Ya did a nice job tinkering it up, and in a operating room "clean" environment..lol. I also really like that new Nikon EFR now that it's plastic free, it has more of a quality look to it now. I would consider buying another one if I had a need for another scope.

Merry Christmas

TMurray


   
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Limbshaker
(@limbshaker)
Alabama
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Believe it or not, I have NEVER shot an HW30. I hear they are awesome, and don't doubt it for a minute. I am a huge fan of the HW50 though. 

If it's temp stable, you got her dialed in I'd say. I bet it's a real tack driver. 

I haven't tried any of Jims new cold weather tar. Next time I order something I'll have to get me a tub.

Mentioning the shorter lever on the HC, i had forgot about that. When I had mine I tried a max power tune with a big ole spring and it was a bear to cock. I had forgot about that till you mentioned it, hunting with it sucked. Was great tuned down some though.

Man those walnut stocks sure are snazzy. I like the dark ones, you did good bud. I want one for sure now.


   
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Prairie_Farmer
(@prairie_farmer)
Illinois
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The cold weather tar looks like moly blended in a dense grease.  Really sticks to the spring and fans out well without slinging.  The heavy tar looks like blackjack out of the tube and is a real PITA if you need to clean it off.......lol

 

Description of the cold tar below, it mentions 10 rifles, I suspect double that atleast as I have used it pretty sparingly.

"New Heavy Tar for very cold climates

Slightly more fluid then the basic heavy tar

Best for colder weather and guns with tightly machined guides

Our basic Heavy tar is best suited for hotter climates or sloppy guide tolerances.

Will do several guns. Ten atleast." from ARH website on lubricant page.

Good stuff indeed,

Prairie Farmer

 


   
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