Ok, I came across what I thought was a good deal on an original Beeman Blue Ribbon SS3. In spite of the missing pins (came with one size or correct pins and a set of oddball brass pins that don't fit) I figured $200 was a good deal on a scope that looked new but for a few scratches on a turret cap.
So now I'm on the search for pins for the mount plates. Some Google time has yielded a lot of reading but no sources. Ultimately the scope is only going to be mounted on a picatinny rail so I only need what's correct for that application. However, if I found a complete pin set, either original or something someone turned themselves, I'd be a buyer.
If you have any sources or ideas I'd love to hear them.
Thanks for your attention.
I have/had 5 of these scopes and only one had set of pins.
These pins probably go the way of socks and other mysteriously missing items.
Drew
First, do you have the correct mounting plates? They came with dovetail standard. The weaver ones were sold separately.
I do have a complete set in one of my safes. The solution would be to send the set to a machinist. Nowadays I suppose you can 3d print them if you have the technical know how.
I'd imagine these would be just as difficult as acquiring a JM muzzlebrake, rear replacement plate for HW guns, or a trigger shoe.
I have to admit I don't know enough to know what I don't have. If different plates are required to do the pic rail I'm sure I don't have the correct ones, don't think I'm that lucky. But I have nothing to compare what I do have against so I can determine which it is I do have.
Does anyone have reference pics?
BTW, I have a friend that works as a programmer in a machine shop I'm sure I could probably convince to make some pins for me if he had a prototype.
so what is the size ???
use metric drill shanks to make the pins
you can get metric drill in .1mm but the a drill in say 2.6 will be 2.54 on the shank
just an idea
They're easy to make. You have to know what length you need for your particular dovetail first. Beeman 5084 Double Adjustable rings use the same pins. There's probably somebody has a set of those crappy rings laying around with typical (crap) bent aluminum clasps. That's why they're discontinued. Anyway they came with a complete set of pins. Surely somebody has a set with bent clasps in the box complete. I wouldn' pay more than $20 for the lot
If you buy them used you better make sure Ole Gorilla Grip didn't overtorque them. Practically every set I've ever seen is bent. I only buy them for cheap. Because they're cheap. I can make them fit any dovetail. BSA, CZ, early HW, etc.
Here I made steel clasps so I could mount a scope on a MK2 Airsporter. Because I can. A whole bunch of lathe and milling operations to make a set. They don't bend!
Apparently Hakko also made the Beeman 5084 rings?
This set sold on eBag. See the pins. The clasps are bent. The winner paid 41$ for junk
Thank you.
If you can tell me the approximate length (+or- 1/32 or better) of the pins you need (NOT including the nibs on the ends) I can check that with the pins I have and duplicate two out of steel. 12L14 should be ok.
If you want to send me the scope setup and a pic rail I can do it for sure. But I'd rather if you can measure and I just make the pins. The plates don't go flush against the scope body. There's about .020- .030 between the plates and the body. Whatever makes the plates parallel to the scope body. That's what you want. Close to parallel as can. Doesn't have to be perfect but still. I'm picky, I'd want them parallel just because.
You want to see my skills go to metal shop section and see my past posts. These pins are simple ?
Check this out
https://airgunwarriors.com/community/metal-shop/1912-bsa-truck-gun/
@kwk Thank you for offering to help!
So far I'm not sure about anything I've read and not sure what I've actually learned. Somewhere I read that the picatinny rail needed different side plates but I don't know if that's true. And regardless, I don't know what plates I have.
If you're willing to tackle making this work for me I'd be more than happy to send you the scope, plates, the pins I have, and a section of picatinny rail for you to work with.
Long busy day. I don't go online during my work day.
Yeah, I'm not familiar with the picatinny rail setup never saw it but I don't think the regular plates are gonna work. I don't think they'll be wide enough or grip right I need more to go on. Get the plates and I can make pins to work. Karl
@kwk Thank you for offering to help!
So far I'm not sure about anything I've read and not sure what I've actually learned. Somewhere I read that the picatinny rail needed different side plates but I don't know if that's true. And regardless, I don't know what plates I have.
If you're willing to tackle making this work for me I'd be more than happy to send you the scope, plates, the pins I have, and a section of picatinny rail for you to work with.
Yes, it does need different side plates for the picatinny rail. I was lucky to find a set a number of years ago.
The scope, using those side plates is now mounted on my Filarms rifle.
I'm sure you could make a set of pins from some roofing nails. Use a Dremel with drum sander to take off material from the end of the pins so they fit the holes on the plates. Chuck them in a drill press and use a fine file to finish the ends. Paint them flat black when finished. Much softer steel to form vs drill bits.
Actually, drill bit shanks are soft or your chuck jaws would slip much easier. Check one with a file. You can find the spot where the hardness starts just before the flutes. ?
Would be nice if I could find some pics and dimensions of the picatinny plates.
