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Septicdeath
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2020-03-02 15:37:31  

Airgun Warriors. Show us your vintage airguns 


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xmdx13x
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2020-04-06 10:09:49  

@ KWK that's got nice tiger stripping that carries through on both sides. How would you rate the Japanese compared to the BSA's? I had a Japanese Diana 24 clone that was well built and deeply blued. 

 

@Colt You've amassed yourself quite the collection.  You have a video of you firing it?  


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1900colt
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2020-04-06 11:00:09  

@xmdx13x

Yes,  but the guy doing the video will make you dizzy! 

 


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KWK
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2020-04-06 22:37:34  
Posted by: @xmdx13x

@ KWK that's got nice tiger stripping that carries through on both sides. How would you rate the Japanese compared to the BSA's? I had a Japanese Diana 24 clone that was well built and deeply blued. 

 

@Colt You've amassed yourself quite the collection.  You have a video of you firing it?  

Both of those Japanese guns shown are very nicely finished. Highly polished blue. They were made after WW2. The BSA Airsporter came out in 1948 and had very beautiful blue as well. Prewar BSA were not highly polished (I don't think less than 400 grit) and the blue is a lighter gray/blue. I have read that the Japanese were using leftover Diana parts at times.


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2020-04-06 22:43:33  
Posted by: @1900colt

@xmdx13x

Yes,  but the guy doing the video will make you dizzy! 

 

Thank you very much for the demonstration. You are wearing camo. Why not sneak up on it so we can see what you're shooting? LOL! Really would be nice to see what damage it does.  Thank you kindly! Really appreciate it.


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1900colt
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2020-04-06 22:56:15  

@kwk

It was the tree at the back of the yard.  

It was about 115 yards away going by the laser.

We shot some coffee cans later... those were more fun watching them go rolling when hit


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MDriskill
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2020-04-07 06:03:37  

@jiminpgh I was one of the guys who got to play with and shoot Paul’s Haenel in Hickory! 

Truly an awesome old air rifle - the fit and finish on the pre-war Haenels is incredible and that uniquely beautiful gray-blue blueing. IMHO they have a certain stately Teutonic “air” to them that even contemporary Dianas have a hard time matching, and that’s really saying something.


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MDriskill
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2020-04-07 06:17:43  

Tyro trio! Three different eras of one of my favorites, the Weihrauch HW 55 tyrolean. 

Top to bottom, an early finger-groove example (373xx serial, 1956), lovely mid-production, extensively checkered one (3132xx serial, 1969), and a very late-build Beeman import (12137xx serial, 1991).

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daveshoot
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2020-04-07 10:41:19  
Posted by: @1900colt

Girandoni type rifle from the early 1800's

.44 cal 13 shot repeater...

I guess we award "best of show" and open a new thread... that is hard to top. Where the heck did you get that thing?

Does it have any origin markings?


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1900colt
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2020-04-07 13:07:45  

@daveshoot

Thanks,  it was one of those guns I've always wanted. 

It was made by Joseph Schembor who was in business in the 1820's through the 1850's I believe. Joseph built the guns in Vienna. 

I'm hoping to get a new tank made this summer for the gun,  that will be very close in size, shape, and volume so it can be used as originally intended.

The gun has the original tank on it, its actually very clean inside too. I fill it to only 500 PSI or so though,  which is far short of the 850PSI the gun would have originally used. 

Even at that pressure, the .44 round balls are crossing the radar at just over 500FPS and dropping to around 390 at the 13th shot.

The magazine on this gun holds 13 balls

 


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JiminPGH
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2020-04-07 20:24:35  
Posted by: @xmdx13x

Well I definitely saved some photos from this thread. No sure I can top some of these old German and English guns but I'v got some nicely wooded American ones though.  I still need to send the Slab stock off to get fixed but the other ones all work. 

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Out of curiosity anyone have a Giffard? I've seen pictures of them at British airgun shows and they look amazing. 

Since we're showing nice American wood, here's my Crosman 187, recently converted to dual cart.

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daveshoot
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2020-04-08 21:45:38  

It was made by Joseph Schembor who was in business in the 1820's through the 1850's I believe. Joseph built the guns in Vienna... the .44 round balls are crossing the radar at just over 500FPS and dropping to around 390 at the 13th shot.The magazine on this gun holds 13 balls

 

Thank you very much for that! Excellent info on one of AG's holy grails.


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bf1956
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2020-04-09 12:10:08  
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Favorit 177


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bf1956
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2020-04-09 12:13:56  
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Winchester333 1968 from Wild west air guns in CA.


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2020-04-09 15:52:52  
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Favorit 177

Very curious about this one.  Do I see some sort of barrel latch?  What is the country of origin?

Thanks

 


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Pneumatic-Addict
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2020-04-09 17:05:04  

I'd like to know more about that one, too.  Stock medallion/cartouche is FLZ, trademark of Friedrich Langenhan; but I have no clue what model it is.  


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KWK
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2020-04-09 18:54:24  

It's an Original X . Langenham. The earlier Favorit models were Millita style. If you say militia I will take your BB gun away! Mil'-it-a

  I saw it in a 1929 catalog. Yours is likely a later model. The examples I've seen have much simpler sights.


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bf1956
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2020-04-12 12:48:52  

@jiminpgh Yes you do, The quality of work is out standing. I'm thinking it is a WW11 bring back. If you have a Steve F. Blue Book of Airguns check it out. And thanks for the interest All of you.


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bf1956
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2020-04-12 12:51:06  

@pneumatic-addict It is marked Favorit .177 on barrel in front of rear sight.


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oldair
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2020-04-12 17:51:50  

BF1956, I have a similar gun, marked "FAVORIT XX" on the barrel, no medallion on the stock and different (presume earlier) rear sight.  One like mine can be seen on Danny Garvin's Gallery:

https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery.com/flz-friedrich-langenhan/flz-favorit-xx-air-rifle/

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bf1956
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2020-04-12 19:50:21  

@jiminpgh Oh hey , Germany. The Z stands for Zellis Germany, I believe.


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KWK
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2020-04-13 00:17:20  

Identifying vintage airguns

Langenhams. That's what I call them

I think they had different names on the depending on who the importer was. Like George Lincoln Jeffries early guns (Millita style*) he imported before he had BSA build his famous underlevers. That was very common in those days just like today. Maybe so buyers didn't know their guns were imported.  RWS /Diana, Beeman/ Weihrauch Beeman/Diana, Beeman / Norica     Snopeak/Diana Webley/Barnett

**Read about Ansonia below...interesting, link

Favorit/Original X    Top of the page shows it in a catalog. Scroll down to see the X model.Twice. Yours is later and they weren't using Original X anymore? Likely

Further up the page see the first Original Model V. See the "made abroad" stamping? Export guns often had different features. Plating, stock style, sights, etc. Several pictures down it shows "Millita Patent". The barrel latch is in fact a Millita patent. Called an underlever latch. 1905 patent # 10411

https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery.com/postid/1499/

Favorit XX has adjustable trigger, barrel latch. Favorit XXX is a repeater

*Millita style just means quarter stocked break barrel.    Mil'-it-a    It was also a brand! Here is a Millita brand page. And one of the guns featured is Also stamped Lincoln!(George Lincoln Jeffries) That gun was finished in the famous Lincoln Jeffries shotgun factory. Engraving and such. He made fine shotguns before he invented(1904/5) the famous airgun BSA made   See why us vintage airgun collectors are going loony?

https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery.com/millita/

** Ansonia

https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery.com/anson/ansonia-rifle/

 Dianas were even branded Originals too. And of course they're not Langenhams.

Thank you Vintageairgungallery


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1900colt
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2020-04-13 19:39:59  

An older airgun I enjoy shooting. 

.395 cal,  with a tap load. 

Not maker marked... but well engraved 

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KWK
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2020-04-13 21:58:17  

Beautiful.

It has a loading tap(I noticed that immediately) and a ramrod. Is that ramrod just to make the gun look "right"? 


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