at Midway USA for $207.00 Wood stock with zippered case. It's a thumbhole called Lawrence of Arabia. 500 made.
Most synthetic stocked sell for $350.00 I bought one today.
The stock is very white, almost looks synthetic but it's wood. I may change the finish if I don't like it.
Only one U-Tube about Lawarence of Arabis Diana 34 EMS.
Enjoy,
DonC
at Midway USA for $207.00 Wood stock with zippered case. It's a thumbhole called Lawrence of Arabia. 500 made.
Most synthetic stocked sell for $350.00 I bought one today.
The stock is very white, almost looks synthetic but it's wood. I may change the finish if I don't like it.
Only one U-Tube about Lawarence of Arabis Diana 34 EMS.
Enjoy,
DonC
Don;
AFAIK the stock IS synthetic and it's supposed to be "Desert Tan".
Please let me know if you received otherwise.
THANKS!
HM
@donc
In description, designation is for polymer in sandalwood color. Configuration matches black matte synthetic stock. Great price. Lawrence of….???? Meh.
@hector-j-medina-g
Sorry, guy on the phone said it was wood.
Hector,
Is a front globe/insert sight available for sale?
Don;
"No problemo, Baby!" 😉 not your fault at all. I fully understand, and, for a while you had me worried, LOL!
In general, I do not trust Midway. A few past experiences with the lack of knowledge from their personnel as regards airguns. BUT, they are clearing paths, so, that's good. Hopefully, they will learn as more and more people get into airgunning.
I have sent an EMail to Ense, see if they are ready with, at least, that accessory. Last I saw it was a somewhat cumbersome affair with two long wires to get the front sight aligned and perpendicular to the bore. But it worked.
In any case, there used to be another part that could help us if you want to fit a globe, I have asked them of it is available. IF it is, the EMS barrel will require some minor milling that will not affect the other functional aspects of the gun, and will prevent the need for the two long alignment wires.
We'll see what they answer, I will keep the friends here posted.
Thanks again, and keep me posted!
HM
Diana has answered that they do have the sets (base and aperture holder), I have ordered a few, so we'll see when it comes.
I'll keep everyone posted.
Keep well and shoot straight!
HM
That tin if pellets will be a collectors item one day.
Sure be nice if that day came next week. 🤣 I can throw in a handful of rare, banned from import, Russian steel case of your choice! Don't try to lowball me, I know what I got! 🤣
This brings to mind the primary question raised by this listing. Why clearance on a limited run?
$30 shipping, and they're charging tax to FL. Total for one is $254.xx total for two $511 for three $751
Midway's color rendition sucks. This looks to have fallen short of dark earth, maybe Navajo White or Chrysler called it "Mojave" (yuk)
Magpul FDE is the sort-of standard everyone aims for, would appeal to an existing fanbase. Look how all-over-the-place Midway is on THE SAME COLOR! (suggested products below primary listing) https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319280727?color=Flat%20Dark%20Earth
I've had fair-good-VG results making AR furniture darker with hot-water based dye. From white to purple, white to pink, tan to green, tan to FDE, green to black.
A light solution, keep the temp uncomfortable->slightly steamy for 45 mins. Don't be afraid to degrease or add detergent to the bath. TSP or Simple Green, LA's Awesome, whatever you have. Don't be afraid to wash the plastics before and during dye. You can always add a pinch of color and put it back in. Avoid blue-based-black dye, such as Rit black powder, as they tend toward purple. Rit "and more" dyes are good.
While I might have been thinking of earth tones, you could 99% turn this bright pink, purple, orange, blue.
The majority of info online seems to be here.
https://www.ctcustomairguns.com/hectors-airgun-blog/the-diana-34-ems-easy-modular-system-chap-1
Yea, I never mess around with pointed pellets. I buy domes by Air Arms/JSB 8.4 and 10.4. My wadcutters are H and N Final Match , Vogel, and Sig Sauer. These wadcutters are basically clones of each other. Vogels are made in America, Colorado Springs.
From what others tell me, pointed pellets are lacking in accuracy.
When I/we placed the order from Midway we ordered 2 rifles. One for me and one for my neighbor. I am going iron sights but I put a scope on my neighbors. We really like it. It is your typical great accurate Diana 34. I prefer the shot cycle of my gorgeous curly walnut Luxus Diana 340 N-Tec and am looking forward to getting my N-Tec equipped L o A rifle back from Hector. I also have a Diana Model 52 for several years that I shoot heavy 10.4. It is a wonderful time proven design. I also have a Diana 34 spring rifle with a beautifully designed and unique synthetic stock. It is smooth as silk from the factory and crazy accurate. Got a old Simmons 66.5 X 20 X 44 on it.
Recently got a Feinwerbau Sport breakbarrel. Wow! Is it nice! Attention to detail is incredible. Best money I have spent. Got it with a new spring guide from Flying Dragons.
All of these wonderful break barrels compliment my TX200 and my gold plated Tyrolean stocked HW77 fixed barrels. Having lots of fun with all of them.
Hi Folks,
This is my first post on this forum, so I guess I should introduce myself. I live in NY (*not* NYC), from NC. Dad was a cop, grew up at the range, he was a state champion in handguns (trained with Colonel Cooper). Have lots of rimfire and centerfire guns, old and new, kinda new to the air thing. Scanning this forum I saw the reference to the RWS 34 at Midway and ordered one. Messaged Hector just now about having it tuned. Should I do the gas ram thing? I'm sure there's a ton of info on this forum about the differences/preferences, and I will do some research. Just thought I'd post and mention it.
This seems like a very good forum, thank you to the hosts/mods.
JN
For $1? $100? $10,000? Nevermind broadcasting Hector's price, let's stipulate $60-150.
The base price is already good, it makes sense upgrading things. Free extras.
IME, gas rams are fundamentally quieter than a spring. Untuned or tuned, a spring is louder, in the same gun.
The sample size is only 6, but if noise means anything, I like the gas spring.
OTOH, people distrust the longevity of gas pistons, probably based on automotive experience.
Maybe someone who's seen failures can chime in?
The wire spring is certainly more tunable for various power levels, but that doesn't seem like your gig.
If you do go gas, ask Hector to include the original spring. With parts on hand, it'll be an easy fix.
JN, up front I'm a springer guy. Don't care for gas ram, the feel or sound of the shot cycle. You might want to shoot the gun some first. I'm of the school of see if I can shoot it well as is, which is usually the case for me, before tuning and modifying. But I only compete with myself. Not a lot of difference in one holin' and holes touching or a quarter inch for that matter. I mostly punch paper and kill wine bottle corks on occasion.
Thanks for the responses, hope I'm not hijacking the thread. I do have a couple of springers already (a Hatsan and an older Gamo that was tuned years ago). I figured for the price of this one, I'd try the gas ram approach. I assume I can swap it back if I don't like it. And I also assume this won't be my last airgun. 🙂
I would like to see a affordable gas piston/strut with the ability for the consumer to determine contained gas pressure. There are rifles that allow this but I want affordable stuff. It aint rocket science for a mfg to sell this option. Seems to me, it would corner the market and be a BIG seller.
I would like to see a affordable gas piston/strut with the ability for the consumer to determine contained gas pressure. There are rifles that allow this but I want affordable stuff. It aint rocket science for a mfg to sell this option. Seems to me, it would corner the market and be a BIG seller.
Define affordable? Unless I'm missing one, there are only 2 in today's guns you can actually check the pressure inside of and increase or decrease it if you want to. The Theoben rams you can attach a gauge to and if memory serves, the gauge is part of the pump kits they sell for doing it. Definitely not cheap since the pump kit is something like $100 by itself and while TW Chambers lists all the parts of it, I didn't add them all up to see what the grand total comes to.
The other is Hatsan, which you can do the same with with, it just takes a high pressure hand pump and the right fittings. You can find inexpensive handpumps for $40 or less and the fittings are $10-$15 each. You connect it and start pumping. You know you hit the pressure inside the gas piston when you get to the first hard pump stroke. Hatsan rams are less expensive but still $45 or so to buy one, so $45 plus say $80ish for the pump setup and a handpump IS the safer way to fill them.
Most gas pistons in today's rifles are sealed units pressurized with either air or nitrogen. While I don't know about others, Crosman's rams are under $20, so affordable. From what Hector has mentioned, the N-Tec rams are something like $80-$90, so double the price of the Hatsan and sealed units. While I apologize for sounding dumb here, I'm curious how you'd like makers to provide the option to be able to look and know the pressure in a given gas piston. A gauge on it you wouldn't be able to see being inside the receiver and one outside it like on PCP's would just make them more expensive and then have to withstand the recoil of the rifle every time you shoot.
Steve,
I was not aware of the price for Hatsan and Crosman rams. That is very affordable.
Hector is putting in a gas ram for me now in the EMS 34 Lawrence of Arabia. it's around $80.00 for the ram.
The $80.00 hand pump would indicate the pressure like you said. Is it ok to use a dive tank to fill a gas ram and use the gauge on the tank? A pressure relief valve or burst disc on a adjustable ram could be a design option that would increase costs.
I would like to see a affordable gas piston/strut with the ability for the consumer to determine contained gas pressure. There are rifles that allow this but I want affordable stuff. It aint rocket science for a mfg to sell this option. Seems to me, it would corner the market and be a BIG seller.
Don;
It IS rocket science. And a good example is the sad case of the Challenger Shuttle.
ORings are fickle beasts they work well under high pressure differentials, but under low pressure differentials they do not seal too well.
By "finagling" the size of the gland and the ORing you can get away with relatively small pressure differentials but this requires a bunch of precision ORings ($5 a pop), and precision (down to the 0.0001") glands ($15 each), stems ($10) and 2 end pieces ($35).
BEST experiment so far has been a gas ram that had a port on the OUTSIDE of the gun, so that you could fill the ram without disassembling the rifle, the release valve was actuated by the safety button, so in essence, you took the pressure a bit lower than you wanted to adjust, and then pump it back to the EXACT pressure you wanted.
System worked well up to about 75% of max power, but under that, the seals had slow leaks and when you wanted to get the gun out of the closet, it was probably "dead".
We studied long and hard that one, in the end, the cost and the size of the prognosticated market was not enough to make it feasible. Perhaps when the 34 EMS is well established I can convince the original maker to get into the project again. I devoted a LOT of time to this (between technical advise and support to the maker and commercial counsel to DIANA) and it was a sad day when the parties could not agree on the implementation.aI am sorry your LoA is taking so long, I am expecting the replacement part this Monday, from there it should be relatively smooth sailing.
Keep well and shoot straight!
HM
Steve,
I was not aware of the price for Hatsan and Crosman rams. That is very affordable.
Hector is putting in a gas ram for me now in the EMS 34 Lawrence of Arabia. it's around $80.00 for the ram.
The $80.00 hand pump would indicate the pressure like you said. Is it ok to use a dive tank to fill a gas ram and use the gauge on the tank? A pressure relief valve or burst disc on a adjustable ram could be a design option that would increase costs.
My hand pump was about $40 actually. Looks exactly like it's way more expensive cousin the Air Venturi G6. I have a tank setup for my PCP's but I've never tried using it on the Hatsan gas pistons I own so the best I can honestly say is be very overly cautious. The 95 gas piston only comes filled to something like 125 bar, so pumping one up is quite easy with a hand pump and little risk of overfilling unless you're actually trying to, just watch the gauge on the hand pump.
It's been awhile since I bought a Hatsan, but the better ones, 87QE, 95 came with a couple very nice features. They had cutouts already in the receiver for 1: inserting the fill probe and 2: to access the relief valve screw on the opposite side so you could adjust the pressure how you wanted to. No teardown of the rifle was required, the only thing you had to do was remove the action from the stock. The lesser rifles don't have that relief screw or the cutouts, so there's no safe way to de-pressurize the gas piston in them. No clue if the better versions of the Hatsans still have that relief screw, so you'd have to find someone who has a new one to ask.
