Here is a new PCP High Pressure Hand pump to refill your PCP air rifles and air pistols.
The last time I used a hand pump was probably over 2 years ago and it was a Hill MK4 that cost FIVE TIMES as much as this one. I quit pumping since it took away a lot of the enjoyment of shooting PCP guns (the DREADED PUMPING!!!) and bought a Dive shop compressor to refill my CF Tanks then all was well in the world.
This pump is relabeled as many different brands and the base no name brand cost around $35.00 to $45.00 including shipping to the USA depending on when you buy it and from who and most buyers will be smart and shop around before paying their hard earned money for the same thing.
Comes with a reseal kit and some tools and I can only wonder how they are making a profit selling them for so cheap but on the other hand if you buy it with the brand name you can pay double, or triple the amount for this same hand pump. Just like when buying an Air Venturi or Hatsan Compressor for $1200, you can get the no name brand of that same compressor for $450.00-$650.00 shipped direct from China depends who you buy it from if you shop smart. Even the 12volt versions have a similar markup when you do your due dilligence with the exception of Crosman brand from China being the closest price difference based on doing my own homework.
I have my own personal reservations on some items made in China which I will never buy again and a high dollar compressor is one of them after spending $2000 on an Omega Supercharger and it failing multiple times and just to warranty it cost over $100 to ship and it added up and the down time and the grief and frustration I had so NO MORE FOR ME but everyone else is FAIR GAME but just stating my own personal experience. Everyone needs to be BURNT at least ONCE to learn.
They can start by buying a Chinese built PCP Compressor like I did.
Nothing beats FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE IMHO.
Anyway I took delivery of my "NEW TO ME" Aeron Spider ACZ 101 pistol made in the Czech Republic and both tanks were shipped empty. I will continue the details of that pistol in another thread.
It took 60 strokes to refill each of the 2 tanks from empty to 200BAR.
Pumping was not as bad as I remember when using my Hill MK4 over 2 years ago.
I think this CHEAP Chinese hand pump is easier to use than the Hill IMHO.
I had so much fun shooting that Aeron Spider that I honestly lost count how many shots before it went down to 90 BAR where the manometer says to refill. I am guessing between 150 to 200 shots.
Next time I will keep count but was having too much fun shooting it I just lost track.
It took only 35 pump strokes to top off that air cyliner from 90 BAR to 200 BAR.
The pump comes with tools and a lot of O Rings to reseal it too.
I can't comment on longevity because I only used it for the first time just today to refill 3 times.
I think it is worth the money I paid. If it fails at least it has the rebuild kit for all you DIY folks.
Only difference I see between this and the Hill is that this one does not have an air moisture trap so if you live in wet or humid environment I would suggest getting an inline desiccant.
The feet folds too for convienent storage or transport.
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Second day of use filling my Aeron Spider pistol cylinders and it takes only 35 strokes to fill from 90BAR back up to 200BAR and I have to say it is pretty easy to do and I would also say that it seems much easier than using a Hill MK4.
Just found out that this pump can be bought for $30 if you shop smart which apparently I wasn't (though I thought I was) at the time of purchase.
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Another vote for the inexpensive Chinese hand pump. Bought one on ebay for $35 after purchasing a Hatsan Flash.
Used pump and gun for 3 months, pump was easy to use and had no issues. Pump was used approximately 30 times to refill Flash cylinder. Sold pump and gun to move on to another system, but very pleased with performance of both. Hope buyer is having equally good results.
Now don't laugh, I just recently bought a Benjamin Maximus 177 set up for 11-12fpe.
It only requires 2000psi to fill it. I am expecting to get 35-45 consistent shots with it
and who knows maybe it may give more shots but will find out when I get it.
Perfect to take out into the field and is very light weight too to bring along with the pump.
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OK now I remember why I gave up pumping... I just pumped up a newly HPA Converted Beeman QB 78 with a regulated 13ci paintball (Approx. 213cc) tank from empty to 200 BAR and it took 240 STROKES!!!
I think I'll just stick to using the pump to top off my PCP Pistols thank you...
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Still waiting for my Maximus to arrive (ONLY PUMP UP TO 2000psi to fill!). I just pumped a 177 Zbroia Kozak semi bullpup from empty to 215BAR in 180 strokes!
Of course no one shoots their PCP until it goes completely empty (Down to Zero Pressure) so it should be a lot easier to top off with a lot less strokes from 1500psi to just over 3100psi.
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Still waiting for my Maximus to arrive (ONLY PUMP UP TO 2000psi to fill!). I just pumped a 177 Zbroia Kozak semi bullpup from empty to 215BAR in 180 strokes!
Of course no one shoots their PCP until it goes completely empty (Down to Zero Pressure) so it should be a lot easier to top off with a lot less strokes from 1500psi to just over 3100psi.
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I bought one of those Euro Maximus guns for my grand kid. Kind of hard to load for both of us. Needs more loading tray. Here is a little dicking around I did with it.
https://advrider.com/f/threads/air-rifle-thread.703388/page-452#post-33801730
This post caught my eye. As the old folks on here know, I'm a pretty devout spring gun shooter, with a couple choice pumpers. And recently I've been dipping pretty heavy into CO2. Never took the PCP dive. But the Air Force Edge 10M gun has been a brain worm for quite a while. If a $45 pump could work with the small volume reservoir on the Edge, I just might take the plunge.
This post caught my eye. As the old folks on here know, I'm a pretty devout spring gun shooter, with a couple choice pumpers. And recently I've been dipping pretty heavy into CO2. Never took the PCP dive. But the Air Force Edge 10M gun has been a brain worm for quite a while. If a $45 pump could work with the small volume reservoir on the Edge, I just might take the plunge.
I'd also look at a Crosman Challenger. I have an Edge and a Challenger I believe the Challenger to be more accurate. In fairness my Challenger is scoped and the Edge has diopter sights. Even so, both rested I give the Challenger a slight lead.
Been using only cheap-Chinese-pumps for about 4 years,,,,the cheapest (a match for that $45 pump) been in use for over a year. Have been more trouble free than the two older Hills pumps (which have died of neglect while they sat unused).
More recently bought a cheap compressor...which also works well...but I still use the cheap Chinese pumps to fill any of the small air volume PCP's.
When I know it's only going to take 60 pump strokes or less to fill from the bottom of the sweet spot to the top, will ignore the compressor and pump fill as it's just faster than setting up the compressor.
Don't have an Edge. Do have a Challenger PCP and an AA 200T (and an AA s2000 in .22) All things considered, the AA 200T is the better buy...the Challenger straight pull bolt system is really troublesome.
EDIT:
It's not about power...it's about air volume (the CC's of air held in the tube or the bottle) and the pressure range used,.
Lets say something like a Gauntlet. That's 215CC's of volume run over something like 1500-1800psi. I just won't pump fill one of those if I have a choice as it's going to take a whole lot of pumping. If we take something like a Flash or Flashpup's 165cc's of volume over about 900psi of air use, I will pump fill that one.
PUMPM FILL RULES (which have kept these pumps living healthy for a long long time):
1. Pump in 5o-60 stroke sets. Heat is what kills that finial o-ring, and heat builds up with pump use.
2. Bleed the pump and disconnect the hose after each set. Every pump (inculding these cheap Chinese ones) has a chamber and a moisture collection system (often just little plastic/glass beads in the internal expansion chamber). Letting it blow out ever 50-60 strokes blows out the moisture somewhat.
3. Walk away for a short time...have a cup of coffee or a soft drink... to let it cool down for a few minutes.
4. Re connect the pump, close the bleed scew and put in another 50-60 strokes.
5. Repeat 1-4 until it's filled.
Which is why the small volume PCP's are still pump filled and the compressor is ignored. If I can "get her done" in one set of 50-60 pump strokes, it's FASTER and EASIER than setting up the compressor.
When I hand pump, if I am watching tv, I pump during the commercials.
And let it cool during the show.
I pump a 500 cc Airforce cylinder, over the course of an hour, it’s topped off.
Must be some premium channels out where you are, swear I could practically fill a scuba tank by the time a program finally starts back up again on the networks here ?
