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Arkmaker
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July 15, 2020 19:23:27  

What can I say? So far I'm loving this rifle. Still lots of pellets to test, but truthfully the misses are of my own doing. I can't wait for when I'm really in the zone! Will try it out at 20 yards tomorrow and maybe 25 yards if that goes well. Shot the jsb blues hole in hole at 10 meters earlier. I think this may just be one of those once in a lifetime barrels that shoots anything better than I'll ever be 😇  So far...... Very good indeed.

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ribbonstone
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July 15, 2020 20:42:04  

Still hard pressed to name a more accurate rifle for the $....there is  reason that they've been in production for so long (like +18 years).


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fivestar45
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July 16, 2020 08:38:51  

For sure one of my all time favorites. I fitted my .22 with the Altaros long aluminum tube and external regulator. It will go 100 shots on a fill. Great Rifle


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Arkmaker
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July 16, 2020 08:40:25  

Wow, Has it been that long? 

You would think that there would be a good source for a trigger blade or at least a shoe. So far I'm coming up empty. I'm going to try to cobble myself a shoe of some sort.

Not that this trigger is bad, in fact it is the best trigger I've had out of the box on any of the <700. dollar 10m rifles. I think I've had them all now. The Edge does have a better blade though.


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DavidEnoch
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July 16, 2020 09:36:32  

I have had 3 of those, all with the two piece target stock like you have.  All of mine were turned up to about 16 fpe.  I like that they are single shot and that they are so light weight.  I also found all three to be amazingly accurate.  On one of mine I had a plastic muzzle brake that was concaved on the bottom so that I could remove the cylinder with the muzzle brake still in place.  It didn't have any baffles but it was enough to quieten it down.  I think I kept the muzzle brake in case I ever get another one of those great rifles.  Have fun!

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Arkmaker
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July 16, 2020 10:00:04  

The muzzle break that came with it is plastic. I just sold my lathe and mill, so I'm going to have to live with what I have. 

Here is a pretty good look at its accuracy. It looks like I need to add one more click down when you look at overall pellet locations.

t200 10 meter target

 


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ribbonstone
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July 16, 2020 10:39:11  

Not really sure when they started....know by 2002 Daisy had a version Valiant XS40.  So at least 18 years of production with minimal changes (other than stock styling).

 

My oldest one dates to 2003. Promised myself I'd buy an after market trigger blade  and bolt handle as soon as those parts broke...they haven't.   

 

Freakishly accurate little rifles,I just don't adjust them to too high energy and they return the favor by shooting accurately and not breaking.


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Arkmaker
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July 16, 2020 19:24:20  

It's surprises me that no one has made an aftermarket trigger for these. They must sell a lot of them to still be around after all these years.  That's ok. I'll try out my shoe idea when I get some time.


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marflow
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July 16, 2020 19:56:10  

so i took an owner manual and dumped it my pictures so i could enlarge it 

it appears to be a 2 piece trigger or spilt and you are able to slide it forward and back 

and if you Google custom trigger you get this 

https://www.rowanengineering.com/products2.htm#s200mprtriggers

so break out your wallet and order up some custom parts 

and all of the 200's  started production in 2001

 

https://sureshot-airguns.co.uk/ultra-aacz-s200-stock/

 


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Frankly
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July 16, 2020 20:19:25  
IMG 9983

In the process of cleaning one up. Have the Rowan trigger blade and bolt handle but still would love to find an off-the-shelf knee rest/hamster for under $50, perhaps some 3D printed gizmo so I don't have to subject the world to my crude woodworking skills. 

Does anyone offer trigger and tuning jobs? I was about to pull it apart and got intimidated.... certainly easy to send the receiver off on these. 


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ribbonstone
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July 16, 2020 22:16:14  

An old (likey within the first year or two of production) in Pilkguns site goes a pretty good job of trigger adjustments.....and trouble shooting.
http://www.pilkguns.com/tenp/spdxs40.htm

Intended as a kind of "match rifle", they don't have a safety....lots of match rifles don't.

Same basic rifle as it was in 2001....just a few little changes besides the stock, air tubes will still swap as will stocks.

Can't find it now, but there was a US airgun site that listed Rowan's triggers/bolt handles. Same stuff, don't know if they had a stock of them, or were just acting like middle-men (suspect middle man).

Could be marked different ways...CZ/AA/or even the old Dasiy Avanti...same critter.

Were some "tamper proof" versions, not intended for U.S. sales, but some found their way in anyway. Other than those, can adjust the striker spring tension and the transfer port restriction, and increase power (or decrease it for that matter).

Love the rifles at intended low speeds....even at up-power to about 12foot pounds (.177) or 16-17 foot pounds (.22)...but past that they tend to really suck at shot count .

 

 

 

 


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mildot 52
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July 17, 2020 08:55:25  

I guess you guys know you can easily adjust the power on the CZ. I liked it but the rifle was a little on the small side


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Arkmaker
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July 17, 2020 09:10:09  

Just shot Rowan an email to confirm that the s200 trigger will fit the t200. Hope it does. They look great!


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Arkmaker
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July 17, 2020 13:42:21  

I just bought the Rowan trigger. Went with the black anodized. Now for the waiting to get here from the 🇬🇧  


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desertplinkerforlife
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July 25, 2020 21:44:10  

Arkmaker I believe the Rowan trigger fits all variants of the CZ. Also, CZ barrels are renowned for accuracy.

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Arkmaker
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July 26, 2020 06:47:55  

Thanks. Trigger should be here sometime in the next couple of weeks. Royal mail just handed it off to USPS.

Everything looked good to me and the rep at Rowan sent me pics to make sure. Pretty confident it'll fit up perfectly.

That's a great looking stock! I love the green stain 👍👍

 


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desertplinkerforlife
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July 26, 2020 11:29:17  

@arkmaker

yes, I had to have one when I saw the green CZ in some photos from Europe. A usa airgun member got in touch with Altaros and made it possible to buy for the usa airgunners. Only place I know of you can get it. Regulated longer airtube front fill with guage and fully adjustable stock, with a longer LOP than stock air rifles. Regulated to shoot right at 12 foot pounds. I paid for it but it's one of my favorite airguns. I get 50 good shots at 12 ft. lbs, before it starts to fall off the Reg. Just an FYI altaros told me that CZ was considering closing out production of air guns so they can concentrate more on powder burners which is their main production. Not sure if or when this may happen.


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Arkmaker
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July 26, 2020 12:29:46  

That's sad news 😞

I'm wondering if I could buy a generic stock and refinish it with green stain. I love green!


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doninva
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July 26, 2020 16:52:10  

I had a couple of these guns. Put an Altarous regulator in it. The guys in the UK take the trigger adjustment screws out, round the end and polish to a slick finish and you have as good a trigger as you will ever want. Don


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Arkmaker
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July 26, 2020 21:16:44  

I'll ha be to take a look at those screws when I get my Rowen trigger in. I'm up to a little file work and polishing. All for the greater good!

I did just get a email from USPS that the trigger package is in Chicago as of today. That's good news. I might just have this trigger installed by Wednesday. 😉

 


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bf1956
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July 27, 2020 09:21:08  

Hoping Hector will chime in on this... What ever happened to those Altoros CZ200's you were importing?


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desertplinkerforlife
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July 27, 2020 19:43:52  

wasn't going to mention that but Hector is the one that set up Altaros to import the green CZ 200s. Far as I know that is where you go, that's where I got mine direct from Altaros.

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bf1956
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July 29, 2020 11:42:34  

Hey that CZ200 on CC web site is this a good deal and where do I get the specs etc.?


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Arkmaker
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July 29, 2020 19:03:47  

The one I have is excellent. One caution is that the CC T200's can not easily be modified to higher power setting (16 joule). There is no access port in the cover plate to back out the port screw. Not an issue for me, but I still would like that option.


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doninva
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July 29, 2020 19:16:15  

A dremel will cut a nice screwdriver slot. Worked great on the one l had with the tamper proof.  Don


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doninva
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July 29, 2020 19:19:37  

Just remember as the power goes up, the shot count goes down. The 200 doesn't have a lot of air to work with. Don


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Arkmaker
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July 30, 2020 05:45:35  
Posted by: @doninva

A dremel will cut a nice screwdriver slot. Worked great on the one l had with the tamper proof.  Don

I'll have to look closer at that cover. I did not notice that there is any access point. I was thinking that the cover is solid. I'll dig it out after another cup of coffee and put some magnification to it. 👍

In the end, shortly, this rifle is going to my grandson with hopes that he get involved with 10M 3-position shooting. So if I do tune it up, it will need to go back down. Right now I'm loving as is, but that option is pretty cool to have 😎


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Arkmaker
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July 30, 2020 07:05:54  

Can not see any access port. 15x magnification.

I've capped and then ground access ports before during my machining career. There sometimes is a round, or partial round circle left where the screw cap and block mate. Not the case here. If it's there, I can't find it. Without knowing the exact location, I'm stuck with 575 fps.  I think I have a 25x loupe out in the shop. I'll look again later.

This might just be a solid block without any access. I think I'll give CC a call later today and see what they say about it. Should have done that to begin with, duh

t200 trigger block

 


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doninva
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July 30, 2020 08:49:30  

The hammer spring is in the back of the action. There is a small set screw on the side of the action that acts as a "strangle screw". You need to find a parts diagram. I was told by a guy in the UK to open stragle screw, adjust hammer spring to 15 fps above your target fps and then adjust the strangle screw in to get to target fps. I was able to get around 45 shots at 850 fps but it had a Altarous regulator. Don

 


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Arkmaker
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July 30, 2020 10:20:33  

Yep, it is the strangle screw that is just not here on this model. Found the striker spring adjustment under the rear stock. 


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