Personally I would pay $400-500 for a mint .177 R1, especially if its the long barrel one. But this powerplant can be a little overpowered in .177. In my opinion, the R1 was ideally suited to ,20, and just as good in .22. If I bought it, I'd look for a JM spring to tune it down to 12-13ftlb. These guns are wonderful in that power range.
there are 13 and 16 gr JSB pellets in 177. Wouldn't that be the same load on the powerplant as shooting a JSB Exact 15.89 gr pellet in a 22 cal R1 ?
No...a .22 pellet has a much larger base area for the compressed air to act against.
This link? Can you not see his sig line?
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I love schopenhaurer as a philosopher, but I'd not like to debate him.
Wasn't expecting anything philosphical. When you mention "sig line" , I was thinking Sig Sauer . But thank you for that anyway, will read it in depth later tonight. As far as airguns go, there are different schools of thought on many points. For example, a TX200HC has a 9.5" barrel , while the R1 has a 19.75" barrel. Of course , the longer length helps with the break barrel , but if 9.5" is more than adequate for accuracy in an airgun , why have it ? I am sure there will not be much arguement against a TX200HC being accurate. It had better be considering it cost $700+ .The shorter barrel also reduces lock time, theoretically improving accuracy when in the hands of a shooter vs mounted in a gun vise. I would think a heavier pellet in a 177 cal R1 would suffice. BTW- I have several TX200 mk3 and HC models tuned with a 12 lb spring kit , and yes they are smoother and easier to shoot well than a stock TX. No question, I like like them better at 12 lb. I am sure you are correct when you state the R1 will be more enjoyable and easier to shoot well at 12-13lb.
Very interesting , indeed. Would love to see those results , GET THE HACKSAW !!! Recrowning would be a must have. one of my TX2OOHC is super accurate with the 9.5" barrel. They are all accurate for that matter. They should be, but they are really nice to shoot tuned to 12 lb. I do prefer the 12 lb rifle.Thank you for your replies - Mark Bello
@fenderguy What is he asking for the mint R1 ? How bad do you want it ?
Here is a photo from the Blue Book of Airguns 13 Edition (most recent) that shows values.
Of course, I would want to see the stock, hopefully full length with nice wood !
I would probably see if he'd take $500... they don't make them like that any more !
thank you for the blue book page. We all want collector grade guns-- some guys just want to shoot, other guys want the collectibility. There is something special about having 35+ year old collectible in mint condition.
@fenderguy I agree !
A local friend of mine offered me his Beeman R1 in .177 many years ago... his son was enjoying the new R9 that he bought him, and he knew I love airguns.
It was made in 1987 according to the serial number and Weihrauch website... really nice full length stock, and great condition.
I bought a Macarri .22 Piranha TK barrel for it, and installed JM's full power kit shortly after that, and some other bling !
One of my favorite rifles, and still shooting great !
It's always liked the old blue tin Eley Wasp 5.56mm .22 pellets (14.4 gr), shooting at about 754 fps (18.18 ft/lbs).
