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KW
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2019-06-09 08:57:08  

My gun club is investing big bucks in concrete shooting tables.  Eight in all.

Some members vow never to use the tables because they will scratch the guns.  They seem to be unaware that shooters can bring their own pads.

Anyhow....I am researching roll or brush on coatings that will protect guns from being scratched.  Looking for suggestions of rubberized coatings for exterior concrete.  Tables will be under cover,  but open to heat and cold.

I have used Herculiner on some items, but don't like the textured type.  Still the coating seems thick enough and bullet proof.

Any other experiences with rubberized coatings?  

Not looking for sheets that need adhesives for application.  Looking for something that is rollable or brushable and easily touched up if need be.  The idea is to make the surface softer than concrete, but not add a lot of bounce.

TIA

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nervoustrigger
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2019-06-09 10:26:15  

The one material that comes to mind is a common roofing sealant.  Normally sold in 1gal cans or 5 gal buckets.  It’s inexpensive and durable but smelly and slow drying.


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JiminPGH
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2019-06-09 10:56:51  

I know it doesn't fit your criteria, but an economical solution would be fully adhered 45 mil EPDM "rubber roofing."  A local roofing contractor could do it cheaply, since the relatively small sizes could be done with scrap from a large roofing project.  It does get hot in the sun, though.


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Jeff D
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2019-06-09 15:21:56  

Another 'not what you asked about response'....

Any sealant on concrete with 'outside/exposed' corners if not from other surface damage, is going to be prone to peeling. You don't want to deal with that, touch ups are time consuming if done right. Even the roofing products mentioned are usually applied on surfaces with what I would call an inside or blind corner and usually applied extra thick in those corners/edges. I can't see that working well on fully exposed concrete but who knows.

Ok so even that probably oversteps my knowledge so feel free to ignore.

That out of the way, consider 'anti-fatigue' mats. Get the right size to cut to fit the table but don't glue them down, just make them available. Not very thick (1/3 of an inch) and not bouncy (at least not the ones I use... Home Depot/whatever is on the shelf).  I think most folks will adapt and bring whatever they like anyway. 


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marflow
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2019-06-09 17:52:28  

he did say the benches were under cover, so how does that change the roof coating performance over time

hell you could make plywood covers that slip over the tops, with lips so things don't roll off

but again if the user can't bring his own method to cover the concert what that say about the users

any shooter should be glad to have a bench undercover and sturdy enough to shoot off of

moving pads at the range but stored at off times

Mike


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Mark.in.AZ
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2019-06-09 22:36:34  

I am not sure that I would want any surface that actually moves, even minutely.

Have you thought about pick up truck bed liner sprayed onto the concrete surface?  That is durable and will hold up to the weather.  It also will not scratch your guns.

Just a thought.


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marflow
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2019-06-09 22:39:55  

just a thought before someone goes and covers the concrete before it completely cure don't, it will just trap any moisture under the coating but you knew that

simple test is a piece of clear plastic duct tape to he surface it will tell you if it ready

Mike


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DaBick
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2019-06-10 00:23:20  

My gun range has concrete tables with the indoor/outdoor green “turf” glued to it.

Another option is padded vinyl flooring.

Not what you asked for tho.

drew 


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KW
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2019-06-10 08:16:55  

Ok, so lots of good ideas but I had already ruled out any sheeting material or temporary tops.

My experience is that loose rubber matting will move around.  Glued rubber mats  will bounce.  We are spending money on concrete and I don't want to reduce stability by loose pads or wood tops.

Any kind of pad, even artificial turf, will eventually mildew on the surface or between the pad and the table.  Stored pads get mouse urine on them.

My goal is to make a non-scratch surface that is low maintenance, permanent, easy to touch up.  I want members to be able to show up and use the tables instantly without having to shuttle in pads of their own.  I am leaning towards the Herculiner or Durabak 18 coatings.

These are the tables we have ordered:

 

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awilde
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2019-06-10 11:38:06  

If you wanted a simple paint on type rubber surface you could do something similar to what some moccasin and shoemaker's do and use a shredded and/or powdered rubber mixed with barge or contact cement that then gets painted on the surfaces. Easy to retouch, can potentially be stripped if need be. Texture will range depending on how finely shredded/powdered a rubber you use, thickness can be varied depending on how much you add into the mix and how many layers you apply. Example can be seen here:


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Hooligan
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2019-06-10 11:47:11  

By the way, that is one of the nicest shooting benches I've seen, I tip my hat to you!


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stevevines
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2019-06-10 12:45:54  

Flex seal?


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DonC
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2019-06-10 18:10:49  

What do guys buy for truck bed coatings? Try a google on it.


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pluric
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2019-06-11 14:24:35  

I just had a client use this product on a home. He has a flat roof that goes over an extended garage. It's also the front porch so it has to be tough enough to walk on.

This is what the roofer suggested. Feels like rubber/silicone when dry.

Seal


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DavidEnoch
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2019-06-14 20:40:38  

That Gaco Flex sounds like the solution to me.

David Enoch


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