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bf1956
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2019-07-21 08:30:13  

What is the go to set up for a low budget set up and the most compact? TIA


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GLPalinkas
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2019-07-21 19:11:50  

I'm using a green laser from Amazon. It dials to illuminate whatever size your scope is zoomed to. It comes with a weapon mounted on-off switch. The green laser doesn't seem to scare the critters away. I mounted mine on my Crosman 1720T and it is, in my mind, the perfect night pester weapon. Inexpensive ($60) and you can use your regular scope. I mounted mine using an old scope ring upside down and super-glued it to the top of my scope ring mount. Difficult to describe. I will try to post a pic of my set-up at a later time. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NW53Z2U/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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bf1956
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2019-07-22 07:01:08  

@glpalinkas

Thanks I'll Check it out.


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Hector J Medina G
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2019-07-23 15:23:51  
Posted by: @bf1956

What is the go to set up for a low budget set up and the most compact? TIA

Brian;

 

Questions:

-What would you consider "Low Budget"? True NV is not exactly inexpensive.

- Compact?  Again, true NV equipment is mostly more bulky than "daylight" sighting devices.

You need to think that there are two kinds of "Night Vision" currently on the CIVILIAN market:

-the old photomultiplier type of scopes (that are actually devicess like a TV screen turned backwards, with another TV screen turned forwards for you to see at.

- the newer technology "video"  style of decvices that do not need high voltage to function because their sensitivity needs no cascade amplification.

Among the latter, your "best budget" proposal wold be around the $500 for a PCP, $600 for springer, as you would need to add a ZR Mount to prevent the forward recoil of destroying the electronics.

There are "add on units" that get affixed to the ocular lens of your scope, but they add at least 4" and then you are nowhere near your normal shooting position. Hard to be accurate with them unless you are benchrested.

If you want to read something, perhaps this would help:

https://www.ctcustomairguns.com/hectors-airgun-blog/nightvision-riflescope-for-springers  

At present the new generation of Photons is the RT version and there is a DEMO unit on sale here @ $429, but if you call them I am sure you can get an even better deal:

https://www.opticsplanet.com/sightmark-photon-rt-4-5-9x42s-digital-night-vision-riflescope.html  

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

HM


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ribbonstone
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2019-07-23 17:40:47  

 

For what it worth...having tried a few.

Here was my problem with lasers: you really can't identify the critter. Can see the laser,but aren't really sure what the critter is...could be a rat...could be a kitten...could be a puppy.

Get enough ambiant light to identify the varmint, and you actually have enough light to use a bolt/thick reticle (as in some of the "tactical"scopes).

The cheaper night scopes are mostly Generation 1 scopes with IR illuminators. They kind of suck of defination AND they tend to ruin your night vision in one eye (it's like squishing your aiming eye right up to little green glowing TV screen). Good news is that they are (1)the least expensive, (2) they do let you clearly define a rat at 25-35 yards and shoot tight to the vitals....by about 40 yards-50 yards, would have to watch them for a bit to be sure the little critter is a rat and then go for center-of-mass shooting...and (3)

The bad news of GEn.1 (and there is a lot of it):

1. I've never asked one to stand up to serious recoil. They're complicated, and maybe not delicate, but I still don't mount one on a springer or hard recoiling centerfire.

2. They're big and heavy.

3. NOT likely to live longer than a 3-4years.

4. The immage is grainy and not nearly as clear as you'd want it to be....but found it good enough for scope-like pellet placement at 25-35 yards.

5. The eat batteries at an alarming rate.

6. Are pretty much uselss for anything but night shooting....so find one with a QD mount, mount it and sight it in well before the serious shooting, and go back to a scope for day time.

(Found that even the "better"/more expensive units never got used other than night time....think it is pretty much like ny airgun set up for one specific use; it gets used for that specific use/.)

LImited experce with highger priced (newer generation) scopes. but they cure most of the above "bad news"...but not for a mninor amount of $$$,

WERE IT ME...and it has been many times...I'd go for a boltd/thick reticle and JUST enough supplied light to see the critter and see the reticle. For home-use (like my ratting) may have to let them get use to the extrea light (leave it on at night for a week). Can get by with less light if you supply a light color back stop.

With that in mind...and that I selodm really need dead-dark shootring....I do keep a 2 year old cheap Gen.1 night vison about the place. It's weaver/pic. mount is well adjusted, and I'll swap scopes before a night shoot....and need to sight it in (won't really stay dead-on between mountings).

 

Works well enough for anything I'd use it for....someday I'll Up-grade, but it'snot something I really have a burning need to do right now.


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Hector J Medina G
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2019-07-24 14:58:32  

RS;

MOST of your "bad news" (inherent to all photomultiplier based units) are cured by the video Day/Night scope technology.

IF you really do a LOT of night shooting, you owe it to yourself to try a good setup.

JMHO

 

 

 

 

 

HM


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ribbonstone
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2019-07-24 19:00:03  

True...and like anything specifically set up for one task, it's really good at that one task....so would have to do enough night shooting to justify both the cost and dedicating one rifle to the cause.


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