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BillinOregon
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2018-09-11 11:15:07  

Having heard that Crosman Pellgun oil is little more than automatic transmission fluid, I was wondering if there are inexpensive equivalents to the various silicone chamber oils. The little RWS chamber oil bottle is $15 or so. Is there a generic substitute?


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Doug Wall
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2018-09-11 12:21:35  

Actually, Pellgun oil is non-detergent 30wt. There are numerous silicone oils out there. RC shock oil is one that I've heard mentioned.


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JiminPGH
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2018-09-11 15:21:07  

FWIW, chamber oil is generally not a good idea in spring piston guns, especially with synthetic seals.  The concept is a hold-over from leather seal days, and has some validity in vintage guns.  But even there, a drop or two every 1K rounds or so is usually more than enough.  In a modern synthetic-sealed spring rifle, chamber lube usually only serves to introduce combustibles into the compression chamber, which almost always leads to dieseling, detonation, blown seals, and broken springs, not to mention VERY inconsistent MV.  Multi-stroke pump guns, however, do require lubrication; mostly just on the pivot points of the pump linkage.  It's a mechanical thing.  I exclusively use Secret Sauce from he-who-must-not-be-named.  I have been told, and mostly believe, that keeping the  pivot points wet will introduce small amounts of Secret Sauce into the valve, and help with seal longevity.  I do the same thing with my SSP guns, just keep the pivot points from not looking dry.  For my CO2 guns, I put one drop of 30W non-detergent motor oil on the face of each cart.  I bought a quart many years ago, and its still almost full.  When it comes to lubricating airguns, less is more. 


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airmojo
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2018-09-11 19:17:00  

Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous what a little bottle of RWS chamber oil costs, that comes about 2/3 full... I have an old model RWS-45 that has a leather piston seal, so I figured I would stock up on some, thinking I may be giving this fun rifle to my younger brother, so he would need some.

I take it that Beeman no longer sells their line of lubricants ? I have several bottles that I bought many years ago.

I learned recently that BB guns that require oil, should be lubed with a few drops of 30W non-detergent motor oil... just bought a quart, which wasn't easy to find locally, especially when the guys working there try to sell you 30W that isn't non-detergent.

What's the deal with "he-who-must-not-be-named" and his Secret Sauce ?

I bought many things from him over the years, and never had a problem.

Ken H in OH -- Life is One Hole After Another...


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JiminPGH
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2018-09-11 19:59:12  
Posted by: airmojo

 

What's the deal with "he-who-must-not-be-named" and his Secret Sauce ?

I bought many things from him over the years, and never had a problem.

Forum owner rules.  Can't go into it here.

 


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