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JW652
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August 9, 2018 10:28  

   Need some advice here. Maybe SS can help as well.

   Am thinning the herd. This includes selling whole airguns, and gifting parts and pellets to those in need. I know a lot of you folks or can figure out what I need to know from your posts. However, I don't want to be a vendor to kids. Know I can put age/jurisdiction caveats in ads (for all the good they do) etc. But what about when someone needs a small part that I don't mind sending, gratis, to someone who places an ad? It makes me remember a youth who caused a lot of heartburn on the Old Yellow several years back and I don't need the hassles.

   Was about to send out a $5 part someone needed in the Ads. But it is a toney address in a very restrictive state and I can't understand why the person doesn't just order it from Chambers. Anyhoo, do you guys (and gals) think I should ask for a copy of a DL? Is this too paranoid/intrusive?

 

  

 


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Jeff D
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August 9, 2018 12:33  

for a $5 part... I doubt that part powers a projectile of any sort, unless is a rubber band gun.

Honestly, the rest is you. Would I knowingly sell an Airgun to a Minor in NJ, NY? No. I understand most restrictions to be along the lines of firing a gun/Airgun without proper age/supervision/license/location. Ownership restrictions are usually defined somewhere. If you're not comfy, just don't do it.

If bought my son a car when he was 15. Could he drive it on public roads... absolutely not. On my property, yup. Legally, yup.

If you are not willing to be or get comfortable with the sellers side, skip it. 

 


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DavidEnoch
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August 9, 2018 13:16  

JW,

Do whatever it takes to make you comfortable.   If that is a drivers license, that is not too much to ask.

Back on the old Yellow Days we did several  Airguns for Kids Christmas presents.  I would always make sure I talked to and got written confirmation from a parent that they would be in control of the gun and train and supervise their kids with the pellet gun.

David Enoch


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Hooligan
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August 9, 2018 13:29  

No one wishes to suffer unseen consequences from acting upon the goodness of our heart. As already said "do what makes you comfortable."

With that said a simple phone call maybe all that's needed for that added assurance.


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JW652
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August 9, 2018 13:33  

   Hi Jeff - Appreciate the reply and agree with you completely. However, my post was inartfully drafted. The proposed transaction is an example, but real, and it got me thinking. Have now decided more info is necessary. The part could make an airgun functional. But the question is generic. How do most folks screen their sales? Everyone looks at the money - Paypal or USPS money order only. But what about the ethics? Hear no evil, see no evil? Trust your gut? Not my problem?

   FWIW, have been on the sellers side for many years. Even had a boutique air rifle business. Am also an attorney and understand the pitfalls of dealing in benighted jurisdictions. But my question is how do others proceed when a transaction makes you queasy.


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Jeff D
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August 9, 2018 14:19  

Good clarification.

You said you are an attorney, so you prob know better than most of us what it really takes. Do I go that far, no. Should I, don't know. I'll stand by my former comments. Its not illegal for a NY city resident to own an Airgun but where its shipped too, where it's stored/transported, where it's fired... sure could be.

Same can be said of age. My son can't legally purchase an Airgun, but he 'owns' several and shoots them regularly.

The item... (might not still be true but) I could go down the street and by legally buy an AR15 clone. Come home and legally buy the parts to make it an automatic. Would I have a legal gun - nope.  Would either seller be liable? Not in the era I recall. To me, the part isn't worth stress. What's done with it is buyers issue.

Times have changed faster than I care to keep up and I no longer own stuff like that. (but I am a light sleeper and still have stuff at hand that will ruin your day if I wake up...).   

I almost always end up in extended email conversation, if not on the phone, with buyers. On top of that, almost all the folks I've sold to are BOI members here or elsewhere. Lots of comfort for me from both/either.

You do what makes you feel ok. Even if that means no sale. FFL's aren't perfect either....

 

 


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marflow
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August 9, 2018 14:48  

so how many of you think kids under 18 are work on a old or new broken airgun to get it up and running and would even know hold to find the parts needed

on whole working guns follow PA's guide lines and ID is not a bad thing but not always needed

just an opinion

take care

mike

 

 

mike


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JW652
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August 10, 2018 11:01  

   Thanks All. Lot of wisdom on the Yellow.


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