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Joe
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2019-07-08 18:28:30  

Friends,

I'm looking for suggestions on a scope with a decent (larger) illuminated reticle that's capable of 10 meter parallax with an Adjustable Objective.  Use will be mostly dawn/dusk low light predator control but also day time paper punching and plinking.

I've had both the Leupold EFRs (3-9 and 6.5-20) in fine reticles and found them far too thin.  I've also recently tried a Sightron SIII mil-dot (3.5-10x44) which is also too thin.  

I've been considering Vortex, Nightforce and Trigicon but there are so many choices and finding a good reticle with 10 meter parallax has been challenging.

Thanks for any help,

Joe

Joe


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ribbonstone
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2019-07-09 17:26:18  

 Have a few observations from night use.

 

1.If it will parallax adjust to something like 18-20 yards,I pretty much live with it at 10 yards.....really have to work at getting your -center off scope-center  to get the variation to be meaningful at 10 yards.

 

2. Not real fond of lighted reticles , unless you have the ability to be really-really dimly lighted. Just enough to be useful, not so glaringly bright to ruin your night vision (no matter what the color....keep your nearly dead batteries).

 

3. Big-n-bold crosshairs, rather than mil-dots.  One of the few places where the "German" thick 3-post  sights (with thin center crosshairs) actually works as intended.

 

4. With some night sights (the 0nes that are like Gen. I and Gen. II image intensifiers) is that it ruins your night vision in the aiming eye....it;'s basically a lighted TV screen (n black and green).  When I do use one, I either wear a patch on my "off eye" or keep it closed to preserve it's night vision. 

 


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Joe
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2019-07-09 19:21:14  

ribbonstone

I appreciate the detailed feedback - will definitely keep those things in mind.  I've seen a few German type reticles and will have to do a bit more searching.

Joe


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Hector J Medina G
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2019-07-10 08:46:28  
Posted by: Joe

Friends,

I'm looking for suggestions on a scope with a decent (larger) illuminated reticle that's capable of 10 meter parallax with an Adjustable Objective.  Use will be mostly dawn/dusk low light predator control but also day time paper punching and plinking.

I've had both the Leupold EFRs (3-9 and 6.5-20) in fine reticles and found them far too thin.  I've also recently tried a Sightron SIII mil-dot (3.5-10x44) which is also too thin.  

I've been considering Vortex, Nightforce and Trigicon but there are so many choices and finding a good reticle with 10 meter parallax has been challenging.

Thanks for any help,

Joe

Joe;

IMHO, the reticles that show well at night, are too obtrusive by day. The German #4 was designed to shoot at "center mass" so you really do not need to see where the crosshairs are.
SIGHTRON used to offer the 2.5-17X56 STac with that reticle, and it was somewhat popular with Silhouette shooters, but it is gone from the listings.

You might want to look into the Discovery Optics line, those reticles are a little "bolder" than the ones you have been using.

BUT: Have you considered one of the Day/Night video scopes?

Look into the SIGHTMARK Photon RT 6x50 (with a 2x Digital Zoom, it is much more useful than the older models)

For dual purposes it is a useful device.

A short report on the PREVIOUS, LOW RESOLUTION generation, can be found here:

https://www.ctcustomairguns.com/hectors-airgun-blog/nightvision-riflescope-for-springers  

For relatively little more money, you can get a device that is truly day/night.

HTH

 

 

 

 

 

HM


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ribbonstone
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2019-07-10 16:05:23  

Still doesn't work worth a snit in real dark...nothing other than night vision does, and it has limitations with your night adaptation.

But perhaps the Germans/Russians (I keep thinking of the Movie "Enemy at the Gates") actually knew something. Pretty much the opposit of mil-dot hold over, but it's visiable in dim light... can't see the thin crosshairs in the middle...but can pretty easily center the object of your attentions in the middle of the 3 thick posts so long as there at least some light (a bright 3/4 or full moon will do it).


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Prairie Farmer
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2019-07-10 18:09:38  

I had the scope below on a Beeman R1.  Not lighted, but it was one of the best light gathering scopes I have had, on par with the $1k up Leopold 50mm's.  I still shoot a XP on one of my TX 200's, different model.  Don't hear these scopes talked about much?  Ones I have had are fantastic.

http://www.clearidgeoptics.com/product-p/3920.htm

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Prairie Farmer 

Everybody gotta die sometime Red.


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Hector J Medina G
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2019-07-12 09:51:28  
Posted by: @ribbonstone

Still doesn't work worth a snit in real dark...nothing other than night vision does, and it has limitations with your night adaptation.

But perhaps the Germans/Russians (I keep thinking of the Movie "Enemy at the Gates") actually knew something. Pretty much the opposit of mil-dot hold over, but it's visiable in dim light... can't see the thin crosshairs in the middle...but can pretty easily center the object of your attentions in the middle of the 3 thick posts so long as there at least some light (a bright 3/4 or full moon will do it).

Hmmm

What part of "Center Mass" was hard to understand:

Posted by: @hector-j-medina-g

The German #4 was designed to shoot at "center mass" so you really do not need to see where the crosshairs are.

Just curious.

 

HM


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Joe
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2019-07-12 15:50:49  

Hector J Medina G - thanks for the feedback and article link; great info!  I have thought about day/night scopes and will have to give the Photon a closer look.

ribbonstone - thanks for the German reticle pic.  I called Sightron today and they suggested trying out a light so I might try that to give a bit more visibility.

Prairie Farmer - thanks for the link, I'll check it out. 

Joe


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bf1956
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2019-07-18 19:17:31  

@hector-j-medina-g

Geez another excellent post, reminds me of yesteryear.


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Hector J Medina G
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2019-07-19 09:19:32  

@bf1956

Come on, Brian!, you're not that old.

 

😉

 

 

 

HM


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