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got a new crosman dpms a4 np. trigger is a joke. is there anything i can do to fix it  

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edwierd
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2018-04-28 21:50:10  

just got this gun 2 weeks ago and have put about 700 rounds through it now. the trigger is supposed to be adjustable for length of pull. I can adjust it all over the place it doesn't seem to change much if at all. there is probably nearly 1/4" of creep in the second stage not to mention the pull weight is on the heavy side. if I really try hard I can get good groups at 20 yds but its more work than fun. I was wondering on the screw for pull length adjustment when you screw it in at some point does it just go nowhere after a while. because my screw will unscrew but you can tighten it and at some point it just doesn't go in any further just spins as you turn it but not any further. is there any easy fix for it. I have to say that it is absolutely ridiculous that these days anyone is putting out a trigger this pathetic on a gun. if everyone would just put a trigger on like the one on my 100 dollar air venturi bronco most air gunners would be more than satisfied. how can a company like crosman not have it figured out. wake up crosman. you are our only hope for a quality American made product left.


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TomR_here
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2018-04-29 04:35:42  

YouTube channel, myairgunreviews, has a few videos of fixing Crosman/Benjamin triggers for a lot less money than replacing the whole trigger assembly.


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Steve in NC
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2018-04-29 09:16:12  
Posted by: edwierd

just got this gun 2 weeks ago and have put about 700 rounds through it now. the trigger is supposed to be adjustable for length of pull. I can adjust it all over the place it doesn't seem to change much if at all. there is probably nearly 1/4" of creep in the second stage not to mention the pull weight is on the heavy side. if I really try hard I can get good groups at 20 yds but its more work than fun. I was wondering on the screw for pull length adjustment when you screw it in at some point does it just go nowhere after a while. because my screw will unscrew but you can tighten it and at some point it just doesn't go in any further just spins as you turn it but not any further. is there any easy fix for it. I have to say that it is absolutely ridiculous that these days anyone is putting out a trigger this pathetic on a gun. if everyone would just put a trigger on like the one on my 100 dollar air venturi bronco most air gunners would be more than satisfied. how can a company like crosman not have it figured out. wake up crosman. you are our only hope for a quality American made product left.

Fire up Google and try a search on:  GTX trigger


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edwierd
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2018-04-29 13:17:26  

I don't know if the gtx would work on mine. its not listed under guns it would fit. when I get a chance I will look at the youtube videos to see if theres anything I can try.


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Domer_Pyle
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2018-04-29 17:18:43  

I'm pretty sure that's the exact rifle as the MTR77 which has the trigger assembly listed as part number B18-05-00 so the GTX or GTR or whatever the gold trigger is called will fit. Basically another one of Crosman's MANY variations of the same action in different furniture. 

 

The last NP XL I bought had the RC bearing mod done to the trigger and while it's not adjustable and there's no second stage it's miles better than the long, gritty trigger it started with. Cheap and easy to do, there are videos on antiguntube and being mechanically inclined isn't a requirement


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Rob112o
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2018-05-04 19:16:19  

A lot of the newer rifle are made so adjustment is barely noticeable. You can't have people/society having hair triggers. Think about how quickly they would sue because they decided to make the trigger unsafe. 

  The last rifle I tuned was a Stoeger XS20 and had the same issue. No matter what I did the weight and pull change was unnoticeable. I removed the adjustment screws and brought them to my local hardware store. I got a couple screws for the weight and creep at various larger sizes. That's most likely what you need as well. A longer screw. After you find the sweet spot. Unscrew the screw and count how many turns before it can be removed. Apply thread lock and screw back in. Fine tune in case your off a little. Then let thread lock dry and you should be golden. 

Sorry wasn't a better pic. As you can see the SS screw that was the newer one. As the old one wouldn't have even been visible.

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edwierd
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2018-05-05 23:23:06  

I am gonna pick up a longer screw and try it. I have drawers full of extra nut bolts and screws and cant seem to find any 3mm screws in my stock pile. isn't that the way it always goes. take care


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Steve in NC
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2018-05-07 08:27:37  
Posted by: edwierd

I am gonna pick up a longer screw and try it. I have drawers full of extra nut bolts and screws and cant seem to find any 3mm screws in my stock pile. isn't that the way it always goes. take care

When you're adjusting the longer screw in that simulated 2-stage trigger, you may be interested in this article about how it works and how to keep it safe...

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/yellow/viewtopic.php?f=79537&t=217541&p=2341901&hilit=b18+trigger+good+great+hole#p2341901


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Tim Ward
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2018-06-01 11:28:09  

If the trigger is like the Vantage or Optima the GRT trigger is the answer.

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