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Qm3ed
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2019-06-12 17:45:08  

Hello,

I'm brand new here and mostly new to air rifles, as I have owned only a Daisy 880; she's pretty much outlived her usefulness. But I am expecting a Seneca Aspen (.22) to be in my hands soon.

I intentionally purchased a refurbished Aspen, for two reasons: one, because I figured the vendor would give it a good once-over and do some modest (but necessary) repairs and, perhaps, a minor upgrade or two before re-selling it; second, the lower price. Also purchased at the same time was a second rotary magazine and some JSB Diablo 18.13g domed pellets. Of course the Aspen came with a scope (which some say is only "fair").

In any event, since I am new to the Aspen and I have time before she gets here, I am wondering what suggestions you veterans have for things I should look for and do to the Aspen before anything else, as well as recommendations for ammo, maintenance, care and shooting tips, etc.

The intended use of the Aspen is to diminish the small prey population, the shots of which should be within 50 yards, with 99% of the shots being from a somewhat unstable position (standing (most likely) and kneeling).

Thanks very much in advance for your assistance.


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Qm3ed
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2019-06-12 19:50:54  

Will have to see how the trigger works right out of the box, especially as I'm new to air guns.  Appreciate the link.


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pistolero
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2019-06-12 23:51:24  

Though I have no personal experience with the Aspen but having VAST experience with many, MANY similar-power PCPs, I believe the 18.1 JSBs are more often than not the most accurate ammo; which is my highest priority for any kind of shooting. You can get more velocity with lighter ammo (my preference in order would be 15.9 and 14.3 JSBs), but you'll likely lose a little muzzle and more down-range energy; hence, penetration. The next heavier JSBs I'm familiar with are the 24.39 grainers, but you'll lose a lot of velocity and likely also some muzzle energy. I'd be surprised if the 18.1s aren't the 'silver-slipper fit' for that rifle. Suffice to say, I'm a JSB man!

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Qm3ed
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2019-06-13 05:19:12  

Pyramyd Air, from whom I purchased the Aspen, recommended the JSBs, and I do appreciate having a veteran shooter confirm that such a purchase should be a good fit for my Aspen.  Thank you!


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Desert Silver
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2019-06-13 18:06:10  

According to Hard air mag the 21.14 Barracudas were the most accurate. I know they work real good in my Aspen.

Here's a target shot with the H&Ns at 25 yards. That's 10 shots.

Aspen H N 21 zero 25 yards resize


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Qm3ed
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2019-06-13 18:23:09  

Wow...I can only hope that I can manage that, even with the best of ammo.  How is that Barracuda ammo with pests?


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pluric
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2019-06-13 18:32:29  

Mine was a Nova Freedom, pretty much the clone. They do shoot well. I'd recommend trying JSB Hade pellets for pesting.

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Desert Silver
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2019-06-24 23:09:28  
Posted by: Qm3ed

Wow...I can only hope that I can manage that, even with the best of ammo.  How is that Barracuda ammo with pests?

I haven't killed anything with it yet but I'm pretty sure is will take any small game easily. It's pushing the 21.14 grs at around 34 ft/lb of muzzel using around 3K psi . I then pump it up 5 or 6 times to bring it back up to 3K and shoot again. I ended up with only a 14 fps spread over 10 shots. I probably won't be shooting any small game around the house as my wife loves all of the animals except for the ground squires and I haven't tried for them yet. I used to kill ground squirrels with my RWS model 48 in .177 using the 10.65 gr Barracudas all of the time back in the early 90's


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Qm3ed
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2019-06-25 05:34:10  

As it happens, the Seneca Aspen was returned to the vendor due to an issue of overly difficult (to near-impossible) pumping.  Later this week I should have the replacement: a Hatsan Flash QE.  Am looking forward to it.

Thanks to all for your comments, suggestions and thoughts.


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BurghDude
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2019-06-27 06:55:54  

Regarding the pump failure, I had my Nova Freedom (same gun, different vendor) for 50 weeks into the 1 year warranty when that happened to me.  My suspicion was one of the check valves is getting stuck.  If I wrestled with the lever (on the edge of breaking, I swear), after a few strokes it would return to normal, but only for a little while.  The other option was shooting it empty, then the pump would return to normal.  But again, only for a while.

I inquired about pump rebuild kits and instructions, like might be had for rebuilding many separate hand high pressure pumps, as was told there was no such thing.  So I returned it for service or replacement.  It is over a month now and they finally did say I was going to get a replacement, but nothing has arrived yet.

I loved the gun when it worked, but if they don't sort out a pump rebuild kit, I'm afraid that might turn out to be the Achilles heel of this gun.

 


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BurghDude
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2019-06-28 13:29:01  

Just in case anyone stumbles on this thread, I'll add that American Tactical did say they're seeing guns come back with that "frozen pump" complaint, so the complaint count is higher than just 2.  I was told the official story is the guns need more lubrication than they're getting.  The official cure is to "oil them up", and if you keep them well lubed, this situation shouldn't happen.  Hope someone finds this helpful. 

 

 


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Desert Silver
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2019-07-06 15:26:27  

I started to have a problem with my Aspen after just 20 shots. I put about 10 drops in, pumped it then 10 more then pumped it repeat until it pumps very easy. I know it a lot easier to pump up than using my floor pump thou the floor pump does give me a good work out and makes my Doc happy. lol 


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Qm3ed
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2019-07-06 15:35:48  
Posted by: Desert Silver

I started to have a problem with my Aspen after just 20 shots. I put about 10 drops in, pumped it then 10 more then pumped it repeat until it pumps very easy. I know it a lot easier to pump up than using my floor pump thou the floor pump does give me a good work out and makes my Doc happy. lol 

I was happy with the Aspen until the pump just became too difficult to use.  Now that I have the Hatsan Flash QE, I'm actually glad for the problems with the Aspen, considering that I might never have discovered the Flash.  And, yeah...the pump sure is a workout.


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