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Cometa Indian---RWS 9N need tip on the disassemble and re assemble  

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marflow
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2018-10-22 23:36:50  

bought another old 9N and will be taking it apart for piston seal replacement  and will be my first one of these pistols

it looks sort of straight forward, the gear and gear link bar has me scratching my head a little on reassemble but the rest is going be easy I think, the first time is so exciting or is it

so looking for some wisdom

thanks

mike

by the way I emailed Cometa in Spain and they got right back to me, very surprised, that normally doesn't happen ever and told me Airforce Airguns had parts and gave me 2  email addresses and they forwarded my info to them and I had a phone call on my machine and an email from Rachel and have parts on the way, if everything was this easy what would we do, now why doesn't Airforce mention that they sell Cometa parts, they might but I saw nothing on there site, but I'm old and could of missed it

Mike


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marflow
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2018-10-24 18:13:26  

so where are my tips, I guess you don't have any because no one has taken one of these apart, I do understand

well they are easy to take apart, cocking handle, grip frame, front cap 5 minutes and you are down to take the guts out, you put a little clamping pressure on the front push the pin out with your figure and let off some pressure and NOTHING HAPPENS

so you scratch your backside and go huh and go to Google and look for some help and find a fine Russian post in Russian and translate the key

you see there are 2 point that the frame bolt on to and the front one does something you would expect, it pushes into the tube or more precisely into the front plastic block and out of the way the gut come a springing

not much to clean up except the crud in the tube and the holy black mess the piston is in, spring was dry as a bone, the front guide is cheap rolled steel type will be putting a washer behind that to spin on

the tube has no sharp edges, so it should go back together with few problems

so you see I answered my own question and those who can translate Russian with there computer here

http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/96/205727.html

it saved my bacon

I would say it is as easy or easier to take apart then a Diana model 5, except for the magic front frame mount

take care

mike

 

 

 

Mike


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JiminPGH
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Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 295
2018-10-24 18:53:42  

Well Mike, I'm sorry the community let you down, but it seems you found salvation on your own.  I've owned a couple of the Indians, but never had the need to take one apart.  They are VERY cool pistols, with a certain steam-punk aesthetic.  I always wanted to take a 9N and maybe give it a brass plated barrel, maybe a copper plated cocking frame, and an oiled leather grip with brass-headed brads, and a walnut cocking handle.  Full steam-punk.

Shooting-wise, they feel a lot like a Webley Hurricane/Tempest, or a Beeman P1, with the forward recoiling piston.  Not an easy pistol to master, but worth the effort.  Like I said, I've owned a couple in the past, and when I see one for the right price, I'll probably own one again.


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marflow
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2018-10-24 23:05:31  

they have 2 main flaws, they are a bitch to load and the rear sight is poor at best and the trigger is so so

I have worked on the trigger of another one to no avail

I have a couple of these but I got this 9N cheap in the box and looked like had been in said bow a long time and needed something to tear apart, sure I do ????

you can't scope them or put a red dot on them but  you could put a See All sight on them with a barrel mount setup

now I have done the setup but haven't bought the sight and if you want to buy See All sight buy them from the factory

so with the See All sight, not perfect but better and a better way to load the thing they are a great little pistol

the cocking system is very interesting, the cocking arm rotates a star gear which interfaces with a bar that has little rectangle cut outs on it and the bar  attaches to the top of the piston and held in place with the inside of the tube

so when you cock it you have a mechanical advantage and that's why it is easy to cock

I have a little cleaning and when I get the piston seal back together it goes

the spring ends were done well but they didn't smooth the inside down and it was cutting into the guide that is fixed, the guide has been cleaned up and made a bit smaller and I'm going to add 2 stainless washers behind the guide, they are only .5mm thick and the piston is soaking so I might put 2 washers it, don't know yet

anyway it is just a project and something to do for an old man

thanks Jim for your input maybe this post will help someone in the future, for every time we take something apart for the first time we might need help with that and getting it back together

take care

mike

 

Mike


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marflow
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2018-10-30 18:13:46  

well the old RWB 9N, Cometa Indian, is up and running again and there are few things most of us would not understand in the rebuild

but there is one thing on the reassemble you have to do or you will have to take it apart and start over, not me 

seeing that the cocking takes place inside the tube by the bar that sits in a grove on top of the piston and can be pushed back during assemble you have to hold on to it some how

well that somehow is with a length of dental floss, you try a string to it, floss is strong enough and you just pull it out after the star  gear is installed

one other thing is you have to make sure that the piston is in the right position to interface with the front cap and you do this before the spring is installed

I did install a new spring, it was 11mm longer then the old one but what they use today and 20 years ago could be a lot different,  what I found at the spring ends old, were smooth, new, as rough as could be

added 2 - .5mm stainless washer at both ends of the spring to help the spring spin and used Ultimox 226 on everything just a little

so that's it, maybe these observation will help someone down the road when they need to rebuild there Cometa Indian

Mike


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