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mike_nashville
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2019-07-31 09:21:21  

A couple months back I purchased a 9 gun collection off eBay from Florida.  I have a friend that pick them up and brought them to me a couple days ago.  My primary objective was a Beeman R10 in .20 caliber the others are assorted assault type BB guns and a couple brake barrels.  I have attached pictures and it looks to me a nice gun.  I do have an issue with the safety, It was stuck open but I will work on that at a later date.  I will list the individual guns later but my first problem is a simple one.  I don't have the first .20 cal pellet.  So off to the rodeo I go and find some,  any suggestions as to what .20 cal an R10 might like?

 

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mike_nashville
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2019-07-31 09:24:19  

I forgot to mention that it came with a very nice mounted Tasco scope.  I am not much on Tasco but it is an AG 3-9X50 and just might work well.


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Iceman
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2019-07-31 09:47:01  

I have the r-10 carbine .20 cal the jsb's 13.7 and the h and n field target specials 11.42 shoot neck and neck lazer accurate,very tight shot spread also.


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ekmeister
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2019-07-31 10:28:18  
Posted by: @mike_nashville

A couple months back I purchased a 9... a Beeman R10 in .20 caliber...any suggestions as to what .20 cal an R10 might like?

sonnysan already mentioned 2 of the 3 that I had in mind.  The third that is also excellent in some .20 caliber guns is the H&N Baracuda, aka the Beeman Kodiak from some vendors.  Although it's usually pretty heavy compared to some in the other calibers, it comes in a little closer to a mid-weight pellet in .20.

Of course, you'll have to test to see which one works well, but chances are that one of the 3 will do the job.

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mike_nashville
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2019-07-31 10:46:10  

Thanks for the quick replies,  I will get a couple of those to start with.  I have several different .177 choices on hand but limited when it comes to .22 and never had a .20 but I have always wanted one.  When I look at pellets being $20 plus for a tin my first thoughts are darn these things are pricey.  Then I look at the cost of 9mm or 45acp ammo and just smile.  You gotta love pellets


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mike_nashville
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2019-07-31 11:06:38  

Do you know is Air Gun Warehouse in business?  I tried to order from them, tried to email them and tried to call them.  I don't get anything but a medical alert business wanting to sale me something.  I put together an order of 10 different types of pellets because their prices were good.  

 


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ekmeister
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2019-07-31 12:06:15  
Posted by: @mike_nashville

Do you know is Air Gun Warehouse in business?  I tried to order from them, tried to email them and tried to call them.  I don't get anything but a medical alert business wanting to sale me something.  I put together an order of 10 different types of pellets because their prices were good.  

I'm sorry, I may have seen and heard the same thing before and forgot.  Go to Pyramyd Air or Straight Shooters--they'll fix you up.

Worth mentioning, the R10 was kind of cursed by its one Achilles heel, the brittle factory mainspring.  It often broke way too fast and without warning, even without any sort of abuse whatsoever. 

You can get an ARH/JM Hornet spring, a steel washer, and a few of his spacers and take care of the problem once and for all.  It's pretty cheap to do, too.  Or, he sells a complete spring KIT--very nice. 

FWIW, more than a few of us here on the forum can do that work for you if you need the help, or tune the thing.  I happen to be one of those who do such work but there are others. 

I bought one of his low-budget kits with the same spring a while back, plus a NYLON factory guide (which doesn't cause the spring to rattle and buzz like the factory steel guide). The budget kit and new nylon guide are still in my stock, waiting for someone to make use of them.

All of this is assuming that the spring and/or tuning work hasn't already been done.  If so, you're all set.

Safe and Happy Shooting!

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mike_nashville
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2019-07-31 12:22:05  

I have no idea if anything has been done.  I can contact the gentleman I got it from and ask him.  He did not mention any work on it so I think it is stock.  I need to shoot it some and see how it does, oh after I get some pellets.  


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2019-07-31 13:17:10  
Posted by: @mike_nashville

I have no idea if anything has been done.  I can contact the gentleman I got it from and ask him.  He did not mention any work on it so I think it is stock.  I need to shoot it some and see how it does, oh after I get some pellets.  

Yeah that's a good idea, see if it's already been worked on or not. In my opinion, there's almost nothing worse than setting some time aside to do some shooting, then have your air gun break down right as you're getting started, or in the middle of things. It can ruin your day. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and all that.

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JiminPGH
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2019-07-31 15:57:15  

Years ago, I owned a Beeman R1AW, which only came in .20 with a carbine-length barrel. Stunningly beautiful rifle! It shot best with .20 Crosman Premiers, which as others have said, are no longer available. Surprisingly, it also shot well (at the time) with second gen Ben/Sher cylindricals, which were semi-domed waisted pellets, as I recall.  I loved that rifle, and thought the .20 was a good match for the powerplant.  Your R10 shares similar architecture with the R1 platform, and these days there are a number of .20 pellets available.  I'm guessing you will enjoy this gun, once you find it's favorite food.  Bon chance on your journey!


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2019-08-01 13:17:50  

I have a Beeman HW77-K in .20 that I bought years ago from an estate sale.

I use to mainly shoot the Beeman Silver Bears, which weigh 9.88 gr, but they seem to no longer be made... disappointing.

So I recently tried the H&N Field Target Trophy, 11.42 gr, and they shoot really well, so I bought several more tins from Straight Shooters.

I use to buy all my pellets from a local airgun shop, but it is no longer open, and the owner, Chuck Trepes, passed away... I loved that shop... Chuck had the best pellet selection that you could find.

Happy to find a decent and not too heavy pellet to shoot in my HW77-K... one of my favorite springers !

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Mike Ellingsworth
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2019-08-01 17:57:45  
Posted by: @mike_nashville

 

What a timely post , sitting  in the box  just received today Is a minty  R 10 carbine .20 I'll do a video maybe this  evening.

so I will be selling my other  R 10 carbine soon  its a 177 decent condition.

I love  the R 10 carbines  they are sweeter & lighter  then  the R- 10 deluxe.

Your  R 10 deluxe is  considered  the baby brother  of the R 1

 

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mike_nashville
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2019-08-01 22:29:34  

Thanks Mike  I just watched your R10 20 cal unboxing video.  I do like the size of the R 10.  I have an R 1 I picked up just recently to replace the one I purchased in 1983 or so but it left town with a friend of mine.  I like the size and weight of my R 7 better but this R 10 will have a little more punch.  It is my first .20 cal and just ordered pellets today.  So I'll be shooting it in my back yard in a few days I hope.  


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Mike Ellingsworth
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2019-08-01 23:03:10  

@mike_nashville

Your welcome.

I think I saw a R 10 deluxe  on ebay  little while back, not sure if that's the same one you just bought.

Enjoy  😀 

 

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ekmeister
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2019-08-02 01:36:32  
Posted by: @mike_nashville

Thanks Mike  I just watched your R10 20 cal unboxing video.  I do like the size of the R 10.  I have an R 1 I picked up just recently to replace the one I purchased in 1983 or so but it left town with a friend of mine.  I like the size and weight of my R 7 better but this R 10 will have a little more punch.  It is my first .20 cal and just ordered pellets today.  So I'll be shooting it in my back yard in a few days I hope.  

I really like the full size r10 Deluxe just like I prefer the R1 with a long forearm covering the breech-block. I think it gives the rifle a more elegant appearance. I also feel like like long stock balances a little better when I'm shooting, although I can't exactly 'prove' it. 

I tend to choose .22 caliber over .20 caliber because of the wider selection of pellets in the larger caliber, although I had a tuned .20 cal. R1 some years back that was pretty-much of a tack-driver with Silver Bear pellets out to 50 yards, and I know the BC says that's not even possible (I'm saying the rifle wasn't pellet picky).

The caliber thing for me is mostly just a personal preference though.  The larger caliber usually does squeak-out an extra FPE or so in a springer, assuming we're talking about guns with identical power plants.  You tend to get just a little more 'thump'.

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2019-08-10 17:13:46  

nice rifle! it even has the adjustable Beeman scope rings. 

I had a R10 in 177 a few years ago, the Santa Rosa model, I had to part with it, regrettably...


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mike_nashville
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2019-08-11 02:49:45  

I guess it is like a "catch 22" for me.  I have always wanted something in .20 cal (because Dr Beeman thought so much about the .20 cal caliber).  However the selection of pellets are truly limited which is better than non existent.  I guess that if one of the current available pellets works in my rifle then that is all I need.  I did get a couple different ones in a couple days ago so maybe I can find one that works for me in my R10.  If I can find a suitable pellet and the rifle works well and can hold a decent group then a stock will be my next journey.  I have always liked beautiful wood and deep blueing on firearms.


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2019-08-11 08:47:36  
Posted by: @mike_nashville

I guess it is like a "catch 22" for me.  I have always wanted something in .20 cal (because Dr Beeman thought so much about the .20 cal caliber).  However the selection of pellets are truly limited which is better than non existent.  I guess that if one of the current available pellets works in my rifle then that is all I need.  I did get a couple different ones in a couple days ago so maybe I can find one that works for me in my R10.  If I can find a suitable pellet and the rifle works well and can hold a decent group then a stock will be my next journey.  I have always liked beautiful wood and deep blueing on firearms.

If you find a rifle you like in 20 caliber, there's a way to ease the pain if you don't find an accurate pellet for it. You can buy a brand new .177 or .22 barrel for about $125.  Then your back to having all that great pellet selection to choose from. It's not a perfect solution, but it's workable.

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mike_nashville
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2019-08-11 10:33:31  

Great idea however if it don't work out then I would put the $125 toward a great looking stock and place it on the wall.  I actually spend a lot more time looking at my guns than shooting them.  I have owned a Model 94 XTR Big Bore American Bald Eagle since 1983 and never had any ammo.  I noticed the .375 Winchester ammo was getting harder to find so I got a couple boxes to go with the rifle.  I do think I can find a .20 cal pellet that my R10 will shoot better than I am capable.  I will keep you posted as I do plan on getting a target stuck up in the next couple days and giving it a try.  Actually later on this afternoon might be a good time but it is going to be in the high 80's to low 90's this afternoon and tomorrow looks the same maybe worse.  I do love those  65-75 degree days.  


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Mike Ellingsworth
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2019-08-11 10:43:42  
Posted by: @mike_nashville

Thanks for the quick replies,  I will get a couple of those to start with.  I have several different .177 choices on hand but limited when it comes to .22 and never had a .20 but I have always wanted one.  When I look at pellets being $20 plus for a tin my first thoughts are darn these things are pricey.  Then I look at the cost of 9mm or 45acp ammo and just smile.  You gotta love pellets

 remember Pyramyd airs  has the buy  four and only pay for three deal

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2019-08-12 21:06:08  

Mike there is a thread over on the GTA about .20 JSBs.  I did some testing with my R1 .20 using the 13.7 and new 15.9.  They both were more consistent than the H&N.  The 15.9 were the most accurate for me even besting the .20 Crosman Premiers 


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2019-08-12 23:42:49  

 

Another option in .20 is the daystate kaiser pellets. They are rebranded H&N 11.42s and VERY consistent. In a recent fling I had with a .20 RX2, the Kaisers were much more consistent in fps than the JSB 13.72s, every time I tested over the chrono. They're not listed on the website but AOA sells them. Gotta call em and they'll tell you they don't have them but Kipp found a couple cases of them in their backroom that nobody knew were there. Since they're not advertising, would just about bet they're still in the backroom, minus the couple tins i bought for testing.

 


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2019-08-13 01:53:49  
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Another option in .20 is the daystate kaiser pellets. They are rebranded H&N 11.42s and VERY consistent. In a recent fling I had with a .20 RX2, the Kaisers were much more consistent in fps than the JSB 13.72s, every time I tested over the chrono. They're not listed on the website but AOA sells them. Gotta call em and they'll tell you they don't have them but Kipp found a couple cases of them in their backroom that nobody knew were there. Since they're not advertising, would just about bet they're still in the backroom, minus the couple tins i bought for testing.

 

Kipp is good people. I may call and see if they have any such .20 pellets left! 


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mike_nashville
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2019-08-13 06:30:26  

I have purchased from them before (Air Arms S410) and I look at their used page a few times every week.  They do have some good deals.  I would like to find out about the .20 Daystate Kaiser pellets.  I would like to try a tin or two. I don't know anyone there so if you could find out for me I would appreciate it.   


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2019-08-14 21:12:31  

Just put a few pellets through my R10 and looks like it might need a little work on it.  I was getting about 575 fps which might be great for the condition of the O ring in the breech.  It looks like it is made of paste or someone just filled the opening with paste.  Guess this one needs a replacement.  

 

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Mike Ellingsworth
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2019-08-14 21:53:51  

Wow  that breech seal is shot LOL pun intended  Ask Ed  to go thru it usually a hornet spring and newer style piston seal is used

air rifle headquarters  also carry's a larger seal for the R 10  if  the tube is over sized or  the regular seal  I would use the weihrauch new  seal if  it were  my gun, I can make  custom  spring guide for  Ed  if he does  the gun   I  should have  hornet springs  in my shop.

I charge 50.00 for the custom guide and top hat spring  would be more of course

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2019-08-14 22:49:10  
Posted by: @mike_nashville

Just put a few pellets through my R10 and looks like it might need a little work on it.  I was getting about 575 fps which might be great for the condition of the O ring in the breech.  It looks like it is made of paste or someone just filled the opening with paste.  Guess this one needs a replacement...

It's not paste, that's what the original, opaque white breech seal looked like when it deteriorated over time.  It would take years for it to happen, but happen it did.

The newer translucent -white seals hold-up much longer.  They don't take a set when the barrel is closed, either, like the old ones did.  That caused leaks and decreased velocity, like you're getting.

Some places like Pyramyd Air, are selling a newer, black breech seal these days.  It seems pliable-enough to do the job.  I have a few here, but I just haven't tried them yet.  As long as I can get the current OEM translucent seal, I'll probably continue to lean in that direction.

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mike_nashville
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2019-08-15 00:11:16  

I want to replace the seal and shoot this R10 awhile before I do anything with it. This just might be the one rifle that I want to "trick" out.  Have it gone through mechanically and also find a nice upgraded stock that sets it aside from stock.  I will order some seals and see what that gives me as far as fps.  Speed has never been an issue with me.  A miss at 2,300 fps is the same as a miss at 500 fps,  it's a miss.


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