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Kingfisher1961
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2019-04-24 08:51:44  

Just bought a mint condition R8 .177.  It came topped with an old glossy Tasco 4x32 scope and a Beeman muzzle break.

The first thing I noticed is the beautiful stock.   The slim forearm, the sweet grip, precision checkering, the elegant wrist followed by the swept cheek piece.....all "just right".  Difficult to outdo this classic in the looks department.

Right out of the box ....5 shot clover leaf off hand from 20 yards.  Easy to cock and it has a pleasant little recoil.  The trigger....oh that sublime trigger...makes shooting it a breeze.  Truly a great plinker!  

 

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Hotair
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2019-04-24 09:07:25  

Is that the one recently sold for 400.00?

Great find!

 

HA


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Kingfisher1961
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2019-04-24 09:13:18  
Posted by: Hotair

Is that the one recently sold for 400.00?

Great find!

 

HA

HA

This is not the one that sold for 400.  This came from a private collection as pictured.  But yes, definitely was a great find!  Thanks! 


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Hotair
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2019-04-24 09:16:00  

OK You're forgiven LOL!

HA


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Hotair
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2019-04-24 10:38:59  

I would really like to share your enthusiasm regarding the R8 so I bought this just now.

Never owned an R8 before but owned just about everything else.

Sure hope its not twangy or buzzy!

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HA


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Hotair
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2019-04-24 10:40:46  

BTW I just bought a FWB 124 too because of you.

Unfortuneately the peep sight broke off in transit.

Cocks super easy and hits hard though.

HA


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DavidEnoch
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2019-04-24 10:44:08  

That is a sweet gun with a very nice stock.

I have a kind of rough old HW50S with the same power plant.  They shoot nice.

David Enoch


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Kingfisher1961
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2019-04-24 13:01:24  
Posted by: DavidEnoch

That is a sweet gun with a very nice stock.

I have a kind of rough old HW50S with the same power plant.  They shoot nice.

David Enoch

David

Thank you for the kind words.  In so far as the stock, I have seen many that have dings and scratches,  but this is a perfect one.....even the bluing.  Took a long time to find.

Those old 50s units are equally sweet shooters as you know.  Kind of a Goldilocks rifle. Just right!


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Kingfisher1961
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2019-04-24 13:06:04  
Posted by: Hotair

BTW I just bought a FWB 124 too because of you.

Unfortuneately the peep sight broke off in transit.

Cocks super easy and hits hard though.

HA

HA

Don't blame all your spending on me!!!!  Lol.  

Best of luck with that gorgeous R8.  Let's see some pictures of your FWB124.  Too bad about the peep.  I always insist on removal of sites and scopes. Safer that way.


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Jim in SWMO
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2019-04-24 13:18:58  

Congrats on another nice find! I've never had the pleasure of shooting an R8 or the older HW50S, but I do appreciate the fun of shooting the "mellower" spring guns. And I have to agree with Ed from your other thread. You do have the nice guns! 😉 

"You've come far, pilgrim."-------"Feels like far."
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Jim in SWMO
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2019-04-24 13:19:41  

Congrats to you, too, HA. Look forward to the report on your R8.

HA, I forgot to ask. Are the stampings on that R8 gold filled? Kinda looks like they might be in those pics.

"You've come far, pilgrim."-------"Feels like far."
"Were it worth the trouble?"-----"Ah, what trouble?"


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MDriskill
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2019-04-24 16:07:57  

A great find and a beautiful example! I just recently got an R8 and love it. Makes we wonder what in blazes I was thinking when I sold my first one years ago...

The R8 was Beeman’s last version of the Weihrauch HW 50 (the current HW 50 bears no relation to this design beyond a roughly similar size and appearance). The stock design was supposedly by Gary Goudy. Beeman also added a synthetic piston seal and HW's side-button safety. The R8 is a very collectible rifle these days.

The gun has a 25mm piston seal like the R7/HW 30, and a threaded-on rear section like the larger HW 35, R1, and HW 77/97 - a great feature IMHO. This makes for a slender action with decent power that is solid as a brick, easy to work on,  and IMHO perfectly balanced - all combined with legendary HW accuracy and the Rekord trigger. 

The HW 50 was actually Weihrauch's first post-war air rifle, made for about 50 years in a dazzling array of variants. The same basic action was used for the HW 55 target rifle. This “family” of designs are really just about my favorite air rifles, period.


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Kingfisher1961
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2019-04-24 17:00:29  

Mike

Thank you for taking the time to embellish my post with your encyclopedic knowledge of airguns....this platform especially.  As you know, i have a soft spot for HW50 and HW55 rifles.  This one is 1 of 3 that I recently acquired.  So far, I like this one best but in fairness, the others have open sites.  I can't shoot for shxx with them. 

Sometimes its not about the power, or shot count or how far out it can shoot.  Sometimes it's about enjoying the challenge of getting pinpoint accuracy from something aesthetically pleasing.  Like making a 3 bank pool shot with a tricked out cue.  The R8 delivers that feeling in spades!  


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Hotair
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2019-04-24 17:06:11  

I have peep sights on one of my HW30s and they work better for me than the open sights and I too have a bit of trouble with open sights when shooting my rifles as well. Pistols not so much.

Scopes extract the most out of their accuracy and easier to shoot with tho...

HA

 


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Faucetguy
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2019-04-24 17:28:12  

Our indoor 10 meter league has three R 8's.  They were purchased new and hardly ever get shot.  They just sit in the club safe.

 

 


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Kingfisher1961
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2019-04-24 17:42:51  

Ed

Free the R8s!  What a waste.  


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Faucetguy
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2019-04-24 17:56:18  

 

They have the orig. period diopters.

They have a couple Diana pistols also.  The older ones with the giss recoiless system.  Those are in primo condition.  


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Hotair
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2019-04-24 18:45:29  
Posted by: Jim in SWMO

Congrats to you, too, HA. Look forward to the report on your R8.

HA, I forgot to ask. Are the stampings on that R8 gold filled? Kinda looks like they might be in those pics.

I am unsure because that is the pictures I got from the seller and I can let you know when I receive it. Lucky I know a lot of people in airgun land always have connections on any kind of guns for sale 24/7. I already knew somone selling one and just needed the motivation to get off of my butt to buy it. I get solicited pretty much daily if I know anyone want to buy this and this and this gun etc...

If I were rich I would just buy everything but I am the poorest out of my group  so I am very selective on what I buy.

HA


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MDriskill
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2019-04-25 05:18:34  

For what they are worth, below are a couple of my old posts on the HW 50. Yeah, you’ve hit one of my weak spots here, LOL:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/americanvintageairguns/hw-50-s-t4814.html

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/americanvintageairguns/the-elusive-hw-50-e-t5993.html

 

In Weihrauch’s early years, their entire rifle lineup consisted of just the HW 35, 50, and 55, as you can see in this scan of a 1959 Weihrauch brochure. Note that the Rekord trigger was new in those days; the 35 and 55 have it, but not yet the 50:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/americanvintageairguns/1959-weihrauch-brochure-t8406.html


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Airguntunes
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2019-04-25 05:44:43  

Well John, another great addition to your awesome collection of AG's.

I look forward to shooting it when you come up for your next visit man.

Nice score my friend!!

Scott


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Airguntunes
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2019-04-25 05:51:42  

MD, your historical contribution to this forum, particularly as it pertains to the HW line of AG's, is simply second to none!

I've been enjoying reading, and talking with you about these great vintage guns over the years.

Thanks for being here man.

Scott


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MDriskill
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2019-04-25 06:03:23  

Scott, I appreciate the kind words. My air gunning interests tend to run narrow but deep, LOL - and it’s hard not to love an old HW...!

The HW 50/55 series is truly something special, and the R8 one of its high water marks.

 


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Regsmeeton
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2019-04-25 08:00:02  

Hey, Mike,

 Did you get your R8 from Lance? I really wanted to buy it at the Hickory show, but was just a bit shy of funds. Still would like to have it. Hope things are going well for you. Looking forward to the next show.

 Jack

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MDriskill
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2019-04-25 08:08:35  

Hi Jack! Things are OK here in old Knoxville.

I did indeed talk Lance out of the ugliest of his three R8's! Which is still pretty darn nice. Really a gorgeous rifle though I gotta say my homely early-70's HW 50S fits and balances a bit better for my tastes. Great air rifles all...


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DavidEnoch
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2019-04-25 10:36:36  

My favorite HW50 stock is the old style checkered rounded pistol grip and bavarian style cheek piece.  I am pretty sure Mike Driskill has one of those.

David Enoch


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Regsmeeton
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2019-04-25 10:37:48  

Glad to hear all is well. How many HW55 s are you down to?

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MDriskill
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2019-04-25 12:25:18  
Posted by: DavidEnoch

My favorite HW50 stock is the old style checkered rounded pistol grip and bavarian style cheek piece.  I am pretty sure Mike Driskill has one of those.

David Enoch

Check out the second of the three links in my post from this morning for that "HW 50E" Bayern stock.

Let's just say my flock of HW 55's is in the low double digits...it's an illness, but a very enjoyable one.


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Kingfisher1961
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2019-04-25 16:41:37  
Posted by: Airguntunes

Well John, another great addition to your awesome collection of AG's.

I look forward to shooting it when you come up for your next visit man.

Nice score my friend!!

Scott

Scott

Most definitely can't wait to head up to NH!  Hopefully very soon!!!


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Hotair
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2019-04-26 22:28:44  

How does the Beeman R8 compare to the current HW50s?

 

HA


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MDriskill
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2019-04-27 15:32:58  

Although roughly similar in size and configuration (especially the 2-piece cocking linkage), they are otherwise quite different.

Old HW 50 has 25mm piston seal and the classic threaded-on rear section, and runs about 700 FPS in the later synthetic-sealed versions like the R8.

The new one (full disclosure: I’ve never owned one) was introduced in the late 1990’s, and was originally called the HW 99; still goes by that name in the UK in fact. For a short time Beeman sold it as the R6. I believe it has a 26mm seal. The receiver tube is one piece, with the trigger module held in by plugs like the R7, R9, etc. It has a shorter transfer port and shorter heavier barrel than the old gun, and with the fatter piston is 800 FPS+. 

To me it’s confusing Weihrauch decided to re-use the “HW 50” name, but hey they didn’t ask me, LOL. 


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